How many, who have had a transcendental moment, still find themselves in a position where they do not see any evidence of god?
How many found that it strengthened their position on God, but diminished their belief in a god with a personality?
How many got stoned, saw some ‘weird stuff’ and that was essentially it?
I’ve had some pretty profound experiences, but I can’t say any of them have made be believe. In retrospect, most of them are like novels where there are characters that are real in your mind but they are not actual entities.
A trip I had somewhat recently did affirm my belief in the reality of the self only being actualized in a social situation, with an extra helping of eternal recurrence.
Since a lot of it deals with the state of mind that you enter the experience in, I think that sort of thing is to be expected. That is the nature of entheogens, yes?
Yes, I’ve had similar revelations.
Yes, true, but I would imagine for the most part the people taking enthnogens have some sort of curiosity about ‘those’ questions.
Me neither. It’s more the contrast that makes me believe – remembering the perspective. Not that it was ‘divine’ as a perspective, more so just that if I can live this life, and then suddenly find myself outside of time after a small change to my diet, that is divine.
Perspectivist Flexibility…
I would be interested to hear anyone’s DMT experiences. I live at Erowid… drools
I have discovered many great things on drugs. My belief stemmed directly from my first, and most profound mushroom trip.
Me belief in christianity was destroyed as well, so in a sense it has destroyed my religion, but I felt that it allowed me to see things from all angles, and thus my belief was changed, and I became spiritual instead of religious.
My god has no personality really; my god is neutral, and does not interfere with the physical world.
dude… that totaly sounds like my god… that’s awesome man! rock on!
Everytime I smoke herb I transcend the mundane, banal circumstances of life and enter many mystical states, feelings some of which are:
Absolute love - amazing place, wish I could be there always, knows no conditions, just…love
Presence of Divine - Unbelieveable condition - Our language is a barrier in terms of me trying to convey what this was like through mere words
I was also told what I would do in life; career, who I would love - an intuitive uncoiling of things to come
I’ve also had interesting experiences with particular people when actively engaged in gange
LIA,
It’s interesting in that DMT and pot are two substances which are already found in the body. It’s quite possible we are living a sort of deranged spiritually defunct atmosphere that vastly goes against the physiological grain. An atmosphere of where we are deprived of the very chemical responsible for dreams themselves.
I remember a quote: “Being high is the soul peaking out from its prison.” I think it’s particular relevant here.
old G…,
Would you be interested in detailing some experiences you’ve encountered as pertaining to religious phenomena while influenced by dmt or pot?
This is a subject of interest for me,
for in one experience my entire purpose in this Universe unfolded
share if you will
Well I have yet to try DMT, but that will be happening soon enough.
As for ‘that’ kind of experience, though, I had one where I was quite gone on shrooms and had the mistake of smoking a gram of pot in 2 hits (that’s right… 2 bong hits cause my lungs were too shroomed to feel anything).
From there I exited time. I didn’t have any ‘revelation’ persay, but rather truly left time. I wasn’t sure if I had ever lived, and that maybe the life I remembered was just some thing – it was barely accessible.
When I came down from that, after a 4 hour fetal position trance I viewed things differently to say the least.
I have since gone on to develop mental pathways of all sorts… the kind some might find impossible even.
interesting
Although I’m not sure what you mean when you say you exited time. Maybe in the ordinary sense of it but not the conceptual. I gather that is what you are referring to.
Do you believe you have an ability to develop these mental pathways as a direct result of your experience?
That would be even more intriguing
I am almost to the point where I can, without drug, leave my body although I know the relevancy of such topics does not domain here.
Interesting thoughts altogether
I can’t really conceptualize it either, but I can remember it… if that makes sense.
That lingering memory of oblivion was what made me remember that anything is possible. So I don’t think that ability came about as a result of the experience, but it certainly helped quite a bit.
Drugs or no… we all have the innate ability to do many things like what you’re hinting at. There are many who can do wild things – not many enough though. Most people are so unaware…
OBE is interesting.
If you are interested in further developing your abilities, orgonite would help you i imagine.
Who said this? It’s great. 
I have also escaped time on shrooms. It’s a very revealing perspective of…everything I guess. New mental pathways have also been created/discovered, while others became obselete.
I’m not sure. To be honest I sort of made that up, but the one I heard was similar. The original author was probably some guy with a unibrow in a chinese opium den.
I have not a clue what orgonite may be but seems interesting. I’ll do some reasearch. Thanks
It’s complicated, but it will open up your intuitive/psychic pathways quite effectively.
It comes from the fringe of conspiracy town, though, so beware. It works, but the peripheral information is not for the weak minded 
Where is that? Austin or somethin?
Conspiracy Town? If you are referring to Texas, then I’d say not to listen to Alex Jones as he’s a Zionist agent.
If I’d never taken drugs, I wouldn’t be the die-hard atheist that I am now.
Interesting.
I could see how being a crack head might result in an atheistic stance though.
Can I ask that you elaborate, expand upon that idea…?