Dying in Dreams

Hmmm intersting. Last night I dreamed I’ve been killed by 2 people but in next cut I was exchanging kicks with one of 'em for fun. O:)

Dreams can be wild and/or insane, just like the world we are supposed to be experiencing while awake. :slight_smile:

I never die in my dreams because I always wake up first. However, I think death in a dream would be a symbol of letting go of the past in favor of a new beginning or a change in one’s life. I have had dead people appear in my dreams as though they were still alive, which is also interesting. I’m not sure what that means, though.

Like Nah, I’ve had this experience - that is, where I stay asleep. For me when I die in a dream I’ll either go to another dream, or sometimes back on the time line of the original dream, such that I know I’m going to die in the ‘future’ of the dream I went back into.

I also had lucid dreaming experiences as a kid. I used to practice astral projection; what I found was the easiest visualization to get into the lucid unconscious is to picture myself watching my sleeping self - this forces your conscious mind to dissociate.

There is a difference between lucid dreaming, and astral projection. I would use this technique with caution - not that I think most of this board even gives credence to AP.

I have had the occasional lucid dream but not very often. They tend to remain liminal so I don’t really remember any of them. I had some OBE’s for a while, along with flying dreams, but not any more. What I think has happened is that there has been a melding of altered consciousness with day to day living and experience which seems to me the natural course of life. IOW, the early stages of transformation tend to stand out more until the process becomes more integrated and complete. Now it works as if thought were turning into reality or vice versa, like the time I got this last job of mine. However, the other night I had a very strong lucid dream and very strong energy pulses moving through my body. I just let it all happen naturally, and it all worked out fine. To this day I have wondered why that happened but nothing special occurred in my life or thinking afterwards, so it’s a bit of a mystery still. All is going well, so I can’t complain.

The energy pulses/hearing a static is the precursors for an OBE.

For me I find it’s hard not to get jolted ‘awake’ when the energy comes.

I had a dream I was a ghost, I died of a heart attack and was still able to see everything. I could talk to my wife still but she could barely hear me and she knew it was me. I was watching my daughter play but I didn’t want to scare her so I didn’t try to bother her. I was running out of time before I would be gone forever, I started running but there was nothing I could do. Sad stuff.

The interpretation is obvious for me, I don’t want to die young and not be there for my family.

I’ve always believed that it’s impossible to die in your dreams. Cheeg and Gib say pretty much the same things. Neither our conscious nor our unconscious minds have any idea of what death “is.” Since dreams are the products of our conscious and unconscious minds, and we have no idea of what death entails, we cannot dream about what comes after death. So we either wake up or change dreams. Dream symbolism or its psychological interpretation may or may not have validity–I’m not a psychologist. But I do think that dreams can be a way of working through fears we’re not willing to face in our awake, conscious mind.

It’s not impossible. I’ve done it.

I’ve never had a dream where I actually DID DIE. I’ve had dreams where I came close to dying - but my brain would wake me up…for instance, just as the lion was about to overtake and pounce on me, I woke up.

I’m not so sure that dreams of dying or having died are necessarily about the fear of that ultimate death…though probably some are. They might be about some other fear which we equate with ‘dying’…about something which we are struggling with, unable to let go of. Dying is experienced in many diffierent ways in our waking life…and our dream-state. Our subconscious speaks poetically and metaphorically very often in dreams I think and it is up to us to interpret/translate those events and object within a dream.

I actually find it to be fun. If we try to practice self-awareness and realization in our waking life about what we are thinking and feeling, it might be easier to ‘hear’ what is being told us from that other realm.

Some say that if we die in our dreams, we will physically die but apparently that is not true. I do think though that if we turn around and face what it is that might be chasing us, or if we allow and let go and enjoy the deep drop into that abyss in the dream, we might have learned something more about letting go.

Of course, my thinking may be faulty.

Yesterday I was reading in a book elaborating on some notions Freud had about death and dreams - this is actually the opposite of the threads topic though. He seems to have stated that in dreams, death is represented not as dying, but as dumbness. This dumbness was, if I got it correctly (I was just browsing) elaborated upon in a description of the death-drive as manifesting in repetition. Repetition of acts as in compulsive neurotic disorders as well as simple, dumb repetitions, overruling the pleasure principle, which has its eyes open to the changes in the world and is eager to participate in them. I found this curious in the context of this thread, as it suggests that dying in dreams (which is a pretty singular occurrence, death is not usually repeated, even in dreams) may be pointing away from (signifying something altogether different from) actual death.

The book also made mention of Freuds use of the term “recurrence of the same” pertaining to the death drive, noting that he seemed to have taken that phrase from Nietzsche without the meaning the latter gave to it. It may be interesting though to consider Nietzsche’s will to recurrence as a possible manifestation of the death drive, if only as a counterweight to the prevalent idea that this is a life embracing principle. I have always found the rationale leading up to it (infinite time in combination with finite mass must lead to eternal recurrence of the same) rather weak, in the sense of lame, dumb.

Dreaming is commonly believed as a natural way for our body to protect itself from possible dangers and situations. An example would be a person having recurrent nightmares about drowning, yet the only reason the brain brings this beyond the subconscious is to warn the dreamer of a fear, such as an upcoming canoe trip in the rapids, or a day at the pool for an inexperienced swimmer. Yet, the meaning of the dream is not always so crystal clear. Dreams can bring up fears hidden in our mind that we are not fully aware of. These are where abstract nightmares come from.
Yet, why would our body wait until our body is asleep? Because in our sleep, DMT is released in our brains, a powerful hallucinogen, yet it feels natural in the body, and makes dreams. The reason it confronts possible horrors while asleep, is because the effects of the DMT can help us create extremely abnormal ways to get out of situations. The brain uses nightmares to bring resolutions to fears that would be unimaginable while awake.

you shouldnt believe everything people tell you its not healthy

and on the other side of that coin, it may not be healthy to NOT believe. Yes?