If everything is nothing but a mere illusion, then whatever you said above is also illusion. Then, why waste time on illusions!
With love,
Sanjay
Because at the same time as being illusion, it is not. I had hoped you would have caught that.
No, i have not. Explain it for me.
with love,
sanjay
No. It is self-explainable. You should work on actually wanting to learn.
RF,
If everything is half reality and half illusion, as you said above, and at the same time all that has to be learned on its own, again as you said above, what we are doing here publicly at ILP, just time pass?
With love,
Sanjay
This thread needs to become more civil and less savage, please.
Why don’t you start with your own reasons for being here and in this place and what it is you’re seeking to do with your own time spent, what you hope to accomplish with such pursuit of knowledge or pursuit of displaying your own knowledge and then ask others what their reasoning for it is and then wonder if you’re seeing all of your own reasons and wonder further if the others you asked, if they gave willingly their reasoning were telling the truth, understood themselves enough or if they were providing reasoning that others have given and for lack of finding their own reasons, went with what was easy to surmise given the readily available nature of the reasoning as opposed to something they had to go in search of. My own reasoning lays in social engineering, pursuing my own growth and development and combating real problems that exist in reality beyond the illusionary/non-illusionary veil of it all. To name just a few of the reasons. Beyond which, it is personal, beyond which it is not for it happens to so many, beyond which, we have real societal concerns, beyond which, we have real existential concerns.
So I was watching “The Story of God” with Morgan Freeman on the Nat Geo channel and he interviewed a psychopath in prison that was said to be “one in a million” as far as being placed in the “99th percentile” of psychopathy. Whatever that means. However, it ended with Morgan Freeman postulation that there is “evil in all of us” “good in all of us”, that we have within us the capacity and craving for killing, destruction, death at times. They took a group of 4-8 year old kids that and had them compete against each other by throwing a ball on a board, the winner would get a prize. They were to do this by themselves, with nobody watching. Essentially, when the kids thought they weren’t being watched, they all cheated. Then another group was presented with a “magical invisible princess” in the room with them, as such, the kids didn’t cheat as they thought they were being watched.
This is of course was taken as an allusion to how people need to believe in an almighty being watching over them, threatening them with punishment or reward, in order to behave. Morgan basically said “people need the reward of heaven or hell in order to behave”. Is that true? Probably. Do we need the threat of punishment in this world to behave? Probably, which is why we have laws. Religion typically goes a lot further into personal nature, really with sexual desire, other desires, in which laws don’t necessarily threaten with punishment. But if people think they can get away with it, most would, right? Morality is something that people probably wouldn’t follow if they weren’t going to be caught and punished. There is really cause and effect. Guilt? Perhaps guilt, remorse, might change that. But the psychopath above, had no remorse. IS it beneficial to have remorse? Is it part of all human nature? Obviously not. Some have it, some don’t. So why should we have remorse? What good does it do the person who has remorse? Remorse seems to be a benefit for the greater good, not the individual who has it.
I find that thinking to be fallible. If all cheat, then that is the expected behavior and to be isolated isn’t in our nature. If it is allowable to cheat and all do so, then it is still fair contest. When they feel they’re being watched, then they might feel judged by the presence of something that is felt to be better than them and if they all follow the rules, similarly, anyone who does not is isolated from the group and none want this and if all follow the rules, this is fair. If cheating is the rule of the day, then it becomes a following of the rules and performing fairly would be seen as cheating whether it was effective or not.
When you strip all facades of human beings what is revealed is a naked ape.
Your reference for civility is nothing but an illusion full of countless contradictions.
We are animals and you’ll never be able to strip or stamp that primal animal side out of human beings completely.
I’ll await a proper definition of civility from you. 
I wait a proper definition of ‘definition’ from you. 
On what exactly?
Stop bullshitting.
You’re not being clever by asking for a definition of ‘civility’.
If you don’t understand the concept of civility, then you would not understand the definition of civility either.
You’re being an asshole. Stop it.
Wow, you’re some kind of top notch philosopher there…
More of your empty crap.
Why don’t you think and post something worth reading?
Who can compete with that kind of philosophizing?
Truly astonishing…
The thing that really pisses me off about this … HHH is not stupid or crazy like a lot of the posters here. 
Was that meant as a compliment? Thanks, I guess…