Esoteric Nazism (Nationalism)

[Pandora]

@Pandora

So what would they have to be proud of?

@IsYeopN

They don’t have to, they just are.

That doesn’t sound like a good answer, because anyone can claim this. One can be proud of things he achieved or could achieve, but these things have to be proven.

Is the globalist not proud of his globalist outlook?
Of course he is.
And you say he should be because he is on top, but a challenger with a different outlook who is not on top should not be proud of his ways because….’Why even try’ or what’s the reasoning here?
Is the question, why even try to challenge the status quo, or why resist?

He can try, but he has to be realistic. Many are being too unrealistic about their self-worth (hence, esotericism).

It is in the empire’s interest to subjugate its conquered nations, to destroy their national/ethnic pride.

When Ottoman Empire annexed Bosnia and Herzegovina, in 1463, many people (including aristocracy) voluntarily embraced Islam in order to preserve/acquire status and privileges. So it can be said, it is also in the interests of people to either preserve what they have or advance their position in society (self-interests), whatever it comes out to be.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosniaks# … ttoman_era

And many small nationalistic countries act like a beautiful frail woman, to be preserved and admired for what she is. But can she defend herself against an aggressor? No, she can only pick who will defend her.

So you think that frail women have no power in this society because they lack physical strength? The frail don’t organise themselves and don’t make politics?
That’s their strength, born out of a need, a lack of individual strength.

Likewise, smaller nations engage in politics as well.
Since you made the analogy, should an individual be proud of him/her-self?
Only if she is successful?

Yes, if one can only play in the junior leagues, he should not be pretending that he’s is playing in the big leagues (unwarranted pride).

Which brings me to another question, what good does it do to be proud?
Is it for the powerful one like a motivational tool to pleasure his ego?
What’s the purpose of being proud…?
Maybe that can clarify how you think of the not as powerful and their ‘undeserved’ pride, if they have it.

If you can’t back it up with something, other than just that you are, what would you be proud of that separates you out? Because if it’s just your difference, then everyone would be equally so.

Without pride, why resist to be or become whatever your captors intend for you.
Simply put, there are animals which are easily domesticated and there are some which are not. It has advantages and disadvantages.
To be proud is not necessarily about a particular accomplishment.

Then what is it and how do you determine the degrees of it (how proud you are of something)?

I wasn’t talking about the Japanese in particular, (I don’t know about them blaming anyone) but about how people seek to defend themselves from the ill-will of others by shaming them into ‘not blaming’ others.

I was not addressing one blaming the other for having to defend themselves, but for losing the war. In WW2, Japan was the aggressor, not a defender. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Sino-Japanese_War

First of all, why not blame someone for something?
Like blaming society, or certain parts, or individuals for not being treated equally, lol.

Likewise, blaming others for one’s own weakness.

And secondly, I don’t have to blame to have and fight an enemy.
Blaming is tool of social manipulation essentially.
And by that I don’t mean that it’s necessarily always bad but that’s what it is.
Blaming is ‘asking’ or better demanding something, like re-compensation or recognition of a status or whatever.

Blaming can also be an excuse.

As for some article of renouncing shit, I think that Japan wouldn’t be the first nation to rip some treaty to shreds if it finds it opportune, and within its interests.

I agree that it would, as history has shown this to be true. But looking at Japan today, where there are more elderly than young, where young men are becoming more like women and women like children, by the time this opportunity knocks on the door, I don’t know in what (mental) condition the population of Japan will be.
Realistically, it is most probable that if that happens, Japan will be given permission to expand its influence by the superpowers if they see it fit.

[Pezerocles]

@apaosha

With regard to OP, the connection with India is that the Aryans were believed to have invaded India in ancient times, displacing the Dravidians and setting up the caste system on racial lines, which over time became blurred. This may have led the guy in the article to roleplay as he did.

With regard to national socialism in general, it seems to me that a race or ethnic group, by virtue of their being a unique people with it’s own self-interest to advance and defend, would organize itself in the territory it controls as a Nation; and in this context the state intervening in the daily lives of it’s people, to their benefit, would be socialistic. The effect is particularist: the people form a nation and they practice a system of government which benefits themselves exclusively, as opposed to a universalist approach which socialism generally manifests itself as.

There’s not much more to be said about this; the best examples of this form of government would be the 3rd Reich or Israel.

Basing political opinions on half-understood ancient epics… That this is true of ALL politicians only makes it sadder.

[lordoflight]

Nazis tried to be a violent ripoff of Hindu Aryan religion. The swastika was taken from various Indian religions and is 5000 years old.

The Bhagavad-gita states that Krishna says violence can be a form of yoga. I kind of agree with this because playing violent games can be a spiritual experience for me.

That being said, I generally disagree with the idea of Nazi violence. Firstly, I don’t think burning books and jews is good, and even if there is a jewish conspiracy, I don’t think all jews are neccessarily part of it.

As for Hitler, at first he said Indians were lesser but once he started to lose he said Indians were superior to some whites and that Japanese were in many ways superior to Germans.

As for the current state of Japan I like anime however I don’t like that so many Japanese males are made to be incel, also I think Japanese are obsessed with education too much.

There is a certain non-violence about SJWs that makes them weak-minded. That being said I don’t think people should go around burning jews alive. Unless they are fake news jews out to spread lies and ruin people, but even then its a bit sick.

As for indians, they seem to have good taste, yet have a tarded society and live amongst actual literal shit, so Idk.

Also, nationalism is not the same as Nazi. Nazi is a form of National Socialism but there are other forms. Republican means a certain thing based on American context. But without the context the word could mean something else. National Socialism is different from Communism. And even with Communism each government is different. So a National Socialist government does necessarily mean it will be the same government as Hitler burning jews. For instance, a government that spread the wealth more evenly instead of giving it to the 1%, would be National Socialist. However, letting random foreigners dictate your polices and freely immigrate to your borders is not National Socialism. Trump is a nationalist but not a socialist, he doesn’t care about the middle class.