Everything Sucks Now

The internet used to be cool… because only smart people came on it, and it was full of actually interesting and entertaining stuff, but then all the morons in the world were like “hey the internet is actually cool” and they had to go on it and with them came all the advertising and bullshit that the smart people had left in real life.

Philosophy used to be cool, until I realized that I people only like philosophy because they can apply it to their superiority complex and act all smart to try and impress normal people.

Psychology used to be cool, but after studying it too much everyone in the world seemed so simple and primitive and it sucked.

Sex and women used to be cool, but then I gained a bunch of weight from med withdrawals and anxiety and because im a fatass, and how am I supposed to impress them? Anybody who tries to “impress” anyone else is just full of shit. I also realized that women are just lying bitches who only want to use you to drain the energy and motivation out of you.

Drugs used to be cool, but now my head is all rotten out from them.

Writing used to be cool, but then I realized that what writing is, is wording things in a way that they haven’t been worded before. And all writers are doing is raising the intellectual bar for everyone else and making everyone else’s lives miserable.

And really all creativity is just a by-product of the reproductive drive not being satisfied… LIFE FUCKING SUCKS

the internet may suck…

but parts are still cool

-Imp

Ah Peachy you used to be so cool!

kp

yeah amphetamine sort of fucked my head up… ehh going to throw this shit in the garbage can… uhh, think im done with chemical emotions… yeah… gonna go back to being myself

I’m so glad that peachy nietzsche thinks he’s the standard for coolness and smarts.

So tell me Nietzsche lover,… how does a man think Christ is smart,… without even hinting at the techniques for Christs smarts. Christ preached his techniques over his golden rule preaching.

Maybe this hollow truth seeking is your answer to why you think that everything sucks now. After all, you get what you give.

Peachy, its just the dumbing-down of culture, standards of value and intellectualism. the ‘mediocritization’ of society. just look at reality tv. the more an art/image/show/idea glorifies “normal” living and a total lack of superiority or accomplishment/distinction, the more its liked by the masses. because such mindless propaganda panders to their laziness and lack of talent or ability or drive.

just turn a lack of value into the standard of value itself, and youve got a perfect recipe for mass ressentiment.

and youre right, every great thing eventually gets taken over by ‘the mob’, which quickly destroys it and robs it of its greatness. this is one sense in which i can forgive philosophy and the many philosophers of history for cloaking their ideas in vagueness and illusory/overcomplicated wording. in a sense that writing philosophy “above the heads” of the common man is a defense mechanism for those ideas and a way to “keep them pure” for those who are truly worthy of them, such deliberate nonsensical or confusing philosophizing (e.g. plato, socrates, most of the germans, all of the french, the postmodernists, the positivists, the freudomarxists, the phenomenologists and idealists and existentialists, etc) are certainly forgiven for that.

well, once you take everything so “black & white” seriously you might just lock up in anxiety and not accomplish anything at all…
or you could make a mistake/contradiction once in a while and still ‘paint your portrait’.

Nietzsche was pretty much saying “If you are forced to have your natural human drives denied, there is going to be physical consequences”… And a lot of modern Christianity is set up in such a way to try and make people feel ashamed for being human… “Denying desires” is alright if an individual chooses to, but when it is forced upon a person, they won’t even have a real understanding of why they are doing it.
Our body is fine-tuned to know its own desires best (it doesn’t matter if you believe it was done by evolution or by God).

Also, Jesus never preached “In the future, there will be a hierarchical system resembling a church in which everyone in it must systematically have my beliefs forced on them”.
Modern Christianity isn’t necessarily what original Christianity had intended… I’m fairly certain that Jesus never promoted “buying indulgences to get into Heaven” or other such associated non-sense.
Over time, it seems that Christianity has let people exploit it either for money, narcissism, or to hold a position of power.

Christianity doesn’t exactly have a “clean slate” when it comes to its history over the years either - look into the Cathar genocide and Carcassonne 1209

Everything seems like it sucks when you don’t realize that you are just lucky to be here. You exist? Congratu-fucking-lations. You exist as a human being?! You lucky bastard.

Life may seem like it sucks, but the way I see it now is, just be thankful for what you have. Not because of some hippity-do religious stuff, but because the chance of you existing as a human being, in fact the chance of you existing AT ALL was very slim. There are only so many living things in the universe we know. It’s like you won the lottery and you’re sad that you don’t know what to buy with the money.

But yes, yes, I know what you mean. People are dumb, I’m cool, yadda ya. I’ve said it before myself. But the thing is, as you see more and more of life, you’ll realize that being better in any aspect compared to another person does not make you better, at all. Suppose you’re smarter than a hypothetical person named Bob. Does that make you any better than Bob? No. Not as a person. Bob is no less deserving of life or happiness than you are because you are smarter. Why? Because like you, he just won the lottery ticket of living. Did you do anything to merit this ticket? No.

And here comes the requisite online stranger advice: Do something that you enjoy. You wanna write? Write. Don’t make up excuses for you not doing the things you like to do. Oh, philosophy is this and that, psychology is this and that - man, just do it. I just finished painting an ugly piece of shit painting. It’s ugly, it’s a piece of shit, it’s a painting. But who cares? I liked the action, and who cares if it looks like crap?

The ultimate expression in freedom, I think, and the ultimate appreciation of just living, is doing something you like and not giving shit about the intellectual and philosophical implications of it. You like listening to Britney Spears? Fuck it, listen to Britney Spears. I know this is a philosophy website and all, and we’re all supposed to discuss philosophy and focus on our intelligence and swing our mental dicks, but in the end all philosophy is secondary to just participating in life.

The thing is, ‘life’ is ultimately subjective. There is absolutely no fucking way we can ever see the physical world as it is, our senses interpret and it passes through our mental filters blah blah blah. So, be subjective. Just change a few words in your mind, ignore a few nagging voices, and KABOOM! You’ll immediately feel better. It’s like being with a girl who has a weird nose but beautiful eyes. If you look at the nose, you’ll think, ‘She’s got a weird nose.’ So stop looking at it. Look at the eyes. Then you’ll think, ‘She’s got beautiful eyes.’

Let the naysaying begin!

No way!

That’s a wise and sensible attitude - I will have no nay saying here!

A sorta optimistic existentialism?

Kp

In a sane world . . . eh, you know - good post, itlog.

I see: everyone on the internet is an idiot except me. Interesting perspective. :wink:

If I wanted to look clever I’d join a science forum actually rather than a philosophy forum, probably physics as that seems to be where the nerd quotient is highest.

Oh and by the way if you don’t like the internet then leave, no one’s forcing you into cyberspace, this aint the matrix. :stuck_out_tongue:

Well, as I see it, the “chance” of my own existence is always 100%…
For one, you have Renes Descartes “I think, therefore I am”, but that’s too simple.
I’d rather look at it, like, all possible “beings” in all possible existence are placed within superposition - every possible person/being exists within a grand-sum of all possible persons/beings.
The question then emerges “if everything is so predetermined and set in its course, then how does time hold any value?” - Time is a byproduct of the application of will. We choose between different pathways in time to travel down.
We live and re-live our lives repeatedly forever for all eternity with slight variances each run due to our application of free-will.

I had the whole “life is beautiful it is so amazing to be alive” blah blah perspective as well - for about 4 years, then I realized something: Telling myself about how amazing it is to be alive didn’t change the fact that my life was shit… It didn’t make it any better; the relief that way of thinking provided was only temporary.
Greedy? Yes. Selfish? Yes.
It is my time now - and I want what I want, I’m not going to piss it away because of the oh-so-stunning beauty of life, I am going to use my gift and fill out my fucking dreams.

Do you have any idea how much shit I’ve written? You are revealing the fact that who you are really talking to is yourself; by metaphorically ‘beating down’ me you feel as if you are obligating yourself to make your own life better. Yeah, I used to do that to.

What I like, what I want, is to figure out what we have all been doing wrong and fix life, fix the human condition so happiness is no longer bought for $19.99 - not for me, for everyone, I want to know how to change this world into an “ideal world” - it’s my goal and I can’t fucking help it, I’m not going to be happy with myself, I’m not going to impress myself, until I do that.

I can’t just “flip a switch”, I’m running on empty
Sure if my neuro-chemical storage sheds were overflowing with dopamine, norepinephrine, 5-HT waiting to be fired off, then I could “flip my switch” and pretend to be happy and content. But they aren’t, amphetamine has left me on empty.

So if anyone refutes what you say, they are automatically posed with a disadvantage of simply succumbing to the level of “naysaying”? Let me point out to you if you didn’t notice - nothing you have fucking said is new news to me or anyone here, you are reciting the same things that have been said by other people time and time again - and they have been negated time and time again. This is a forum undoubtedly centered around debate to reach conclusions - if you don’t like that then you do not need to respond to me. If you have a well thought-out response - a legitimate response - not just something you pulled out of thin air because of your personal obligation to criticize me - then I’d like to hear it.

I joined a Theoretical Physics forum years ago :frowning:

Dont say things suck now. o:

There are cons to living, but that doesnt mean overlook the pros? If you want to be happy in your environment and your environment isnt going to change, then you have to change, right?
Or are you happy? Do you think you lead an interesting life with interesting views and those views keep you ‘happy’ or content in some kind of way which you actually look sad.?!

And damn physics is awesome, haters!!

ps: I almost got a seizure looking at those smileys Dx

I am studying towards a degree in physics. And I joined a physics forum years ago. :stuck_out_tongue:

Just kidding about the physics thing although I am learning the subject but through the pure motivation of being fascinated by the subject rather than I can do maths me (I is therefore smart me no?) I think the point is talking about philosophy and or physics is hardly an indication of intellect, and in that case I agree completely with your point about joining forums to some how establish your intellectual virtuosity. I think to most people who are older than 14 it’s more an indication of intellectual curiosity. Joining a physics forum is about learning about physics for me. Joining a philosophy forum, a subject I have no training in is more about learning about how the other half lives on the art side for me. It also has some really interesting people, whether they are trying to hard to look smart or not. That in itself is interesting no, no point in refining your thinking process with people who aren’t trying to refine theirs? :smiley:

You can pickle your brain with alcohol and drugs, but it is fairly resistant. For example there is a myth about alcohol killing brain cells, it doesn’t it just tends to weaken links between brain cells thus making memorisation harder and this is repairable. Unless you are in end stage alcoholism then vitamin B deficiency can cause you to get CJD, or Cruestzfeldt Jacob disease, a degenerative neurological disorder, than leads to the classic drunk when sober end phase of alcoholism, just before your liver gives up the ghost. :slight_smile:

The brain is remarkably robust so don’t worry too much, people who did too much acid in the 60s are CEOs these days, to roll out the cliché. :smiley:

It is indeed.

Peachy,

You’re trying too hard to fight everything you can’t control. Does being cool on the internet really matter? Does trying to make yourself sound smarter than everybody else really matter? Does anything really matter? The answer is obviously no. Move past the things that do not matter. Relax, go laugh, enjoy your time here on this earth. Life does not have to be so complicated.

Nothing sucks or not-sucks but thinking makes it so.

Haha, first you complain about how everything sucks. Then you justify yourself to me (yes, you did) by explaining how you are such and such.
Look:

Did I ever say that life is beautiful? Did I say piss life away? You are filling out my words with your own. Doesn’t really matter though. Oh and by the way, ‘I am going to use my gift and fill out my fucking dreams’ isn’t actually compatible with your whiny original post. I assume your ‘gift’ is related to one or more of these interests? Why denigrate something when you consider it your dream-filling gift?

Hey, I’ve been there too.

…should I have an idea how much shit you’ve written? Also, in a way you are correct, I am talking to myself, but not to obligate myself into making my life ‘better.’ I had several posts like this about a month back. I lost perspective then, but time gave me lucidity and I can see once again that I like my life. I’m patting my own back, not kicking my own ass.

How is naysaying a disadvantage? I say something, someone disagrees. If anything, it’s the one who says something first that is at a disadvantage.

‘Criticize’ you? In no way in this post did I directly criticize you. You inferred criticism from what I wrote. Did I poke some sore spots?

Oh shit man, I hope my post is well-thought out enough for you. I hope you find it legitimate. I mean, I wouldn’t want to be criticized. God help me, I do not want to write something and then be in a position that I can be criticized in because of it. Cause man, if that happens then I’m just some guy on the internet making it less cool.

…wait a sec…

I’m not criticizing you dude. If anything, I understood what you were saying, knew where you coming from, and wanted to share what I did to snap out of that. But hey, whatever man.