Evolution does not make sense

"Again, I have no idea how you can be serious.

Darwin never said fittest; that was someone else.

Animals adapt to changes in their environment to survive. Hey, that’s why racial mixing is ok."

Wow, now I have quote myself!

Emorgasm

so from 3 gene pools you end up with 1 pool. I don’t see how that is advantageous. when you have 3 races as representatives of humanity, now you have 1.

TheAdlerian

What? how is that a racial advantage? how do mixed bastards have racial advantage. you are mixing up economical advantage to racial advantage.

Gene pool one all carries genes for sickle-cell anemia. Gene pool two all carries genes for cycstic fibrosis. Gene pool three are all dwarves.

“What? how is that a racial advantage? how do mixed bastards have racial advantage. you are mixing up economical advantage to racial advantage.”

The individual organism doesn’t know what group it belongs to nor does it care. Sperm will swim up any vagina that will have it, and that’s what the little fellas like.

actually, Adlerian, it’s beneficial for creatures to be as large as possible when it’s cold (other factors excluded)
larger organisms have a smaller surface/volume ration and lose heat relatively slower
which is why all the scandinavians are so damn tall :stuck_out_tongue:

willem,

The thought on eskimos and other people being short is that it keeps heat in.

I wonder if Northern Europeans have actually been there long enough to have been so affected.

it so happens … the northern europeans have been in the polar region much longer than the inuit :wink:

No, if one is very sexual and mates with 10 fem,
and one is not sexual and mates with 1 fem,
there will be 10x as much of the sexual per generation.

If one naturaly lives 5 years and one naturaly lives 50 years,
the same outcome as the first will take place. (10x as much of the x10 life span)

Imortal beings could have and should have arose by now.
Old age is genetic and programmed into the cell.
Cancer cells, for example, do not have limited replecations.
This “mutation” kills the species, yet is the supposed source of “evolution” also?

Do not confuse system modulation with system revolution.

Willem,

“it so happens … the northern europeans have been in the polar region much longer than the inuit”

Are you sure about that?

Also, it is far colder in eskimo country and Siberia than Northern Europe.

yukoncollege.yk.ca/~agraham/ … 4sibt1.htm

collections.ic.gc.ca/arctic/inuit/pre-his.htm

adlerian; i agree that it’s pretty cold in the north of canada, but i don’t lie when i say larger people have advantage in cold because losing less heat…
for example: mice never sleep longer than a few hours, just because they have to move around and burn energy to keep their body temperature up
while big, fat bears sleep through the whole winter… :slight_smile:

That makes sense but I have always read that the theory was that small stocky bodies were good for the cold. In fact that’s the idea behind Neanderthals.

It could be that subtly different aspects of cold push development to extremes.

well… being stocky obviously helps reducing the surface/volume ratio :slight_smile: i recall that the neanderthals were actually really heavy as well… (large volume)
and in abscence of food, a smaller size might help reducing absolute energy needs
or make it easier to get into small caves or iglos :smiley:

imagine there is only one tree for a hundred miles and it gives your family all the food you need. will your kids live longer and reproduce more if you live forever, or if you die and stop eating their food?

keep in mind that even if your body wasnt genetically programmed to commit suicide, your chances of dying, or becoming useless to your genes’ mission of reproduction, due to wear and tear and other accidents like diseases increases as you get older and the more that these accidents happen to you, the less likely you will be able to reproduce as much as your children can.

so hurry up and die and stop eating your kids food, your dna is already trying to kill you.

I actually believe this now: in fact, I said this to a friend, exactly this, about my brother. He (was) genetically marked for suicide. And since he… (oops, was) my brother, then I might have a bit of this gene as well. Call me crazy.
edit: I still write “he is…” I forget.

The gene selection of traits that are good candidates for passing on is always like an imperfect system. Okay, something, something…a more perfect system is one that kills us before we pass on the undesirable traits, like when kids die of cancer or degenerative disease, kids: before they can reproduce and pass on the unwanted traits, or cancer genes.

"I actually believe this now: in fact, I said this to a friend, exactly this, about my brother. He (was) genetically marked for suicide. And since he… (oops, was) my brother, then I might have a bit of this gene as well. Call me crazy.
edit: I still write “he is…” I forget. "

This is the heinous infection of post 80s Nazi psychiatry.

:frowning:

You have no idea how many young people have told me that they think that they are genetically inferior because of a combination of events and genetic theories that they heard.

Also, suicide can start running in families once one gets started, but that is most likely because of demoralization.

Challenge your thoughts!

Blaming DNA is the quick fix that never solved the problem.
[size=67]Blaming DAN is also a useless idea! =)[/size]
What a suicidal person needs is hope and also confidance in his or her ability to live and cause good things in his or her life. It is rooted in the beliefs system and not in the genetic codes.

Strong genetic tendency to teen suicide, if it does exist, will never become a very widespread thing. It selects itself out of the population.

Ad and Dan, you guys make reasonable points. So, you can now stop jizzing your pants and relax. Observe what I just did:

To whom I was addressing the post?—Future Man.

What was I trying to pull off?—a POR.

Even my brother, if he was alive, would be yelling at me to knock it off.

Future Man can handle shit like that. If you want to talk, talk to FM. If he is real and not some another macroeconomics persona by another member of this forum, which really does not matter to me, then I am not wasting my time. If he is just another pseudo-poster, then I am not wasting my time.

Now, excuse me while I join the underground org.