Thats nonsense, christianity and buddhism are anti-war religions.
there are new articles saying the big bang is false.
most likely in my opinion:
if atheism is true: big bang is false, infinite universe is true.
if atheism is false: big bang is false/does not even matter, finite universe that has an illusion of being infinite, we live in a false world inside of an ASI.
Can l also say, your view of reality being a computer simulation / game, with a game creator etc. falls down because these super-characters have surfaces or their ultimate maker(s) does.
Something with a surface, edges, etc. is not God, it is a big person. Itās as simple as that.
if the ASI theory is true then we are nothing more than virtual reality characters in a dream world.
As you are on a very long streak of dismissive unresearched unacademic replies, lāll try to be as polite as possible but pardon me if l am not.
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Buddhism has no laws. OK? Read that again. Buddhism has no law. Ask yourself: did he consider Buddhism before typing that? Instead of being in a rush to prove yourself. I completely surround your counterarguments above below side to side. Before your response and after your response.
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Also, as Buddhism teaches reincarnation, there is no real morality and l know Buddhists very well, in my experience they have very low morality and itās the height of bigotry to judge a religion by its followers but lām not, lām finishing off the judgement of the religion by also, also ā¦ also noting its followrs. Yes l have thought it through, argue against rather than tell me āoh thatās silly oh thatās false oh itās rubbish, think about me, me me, my alt theory me me me how about my alt theory me me meā. Use logic and reason. And in this case, l base off historical sources e.g. the Dabestan-e-Mazaheb, a vast work on the religions of India from the high middle ages to the 1800s, written by Zoroastrian Sufi Mir Dulfar Ardestani. He treats of Buddhism in Old India, though nowhere as in depth as he covers Zoroastrianism or Hinduism. It has many noble beliefs but within it are cults which wear human bodyparts, practice what is called Black Magic and thereby threaten their followers, extorting wealth from their adherents. Itās a world away from the sanitised Doring Kindersley books you have today. I donāt want to put down Buddhism that much really - for one thing this thread is about Evolution but let me also say: If l had another lifetime left to live lād have loved to research and write a book connecting Sabaeanism to Buddhism, because l have a hunch they are an offshoot of Sabaeanism, along the same eastward locus as Manichaeism, though it gets tricky as Buddhism is older than Manichaeism or John the Baptist (peace be upon him).
Anyway my point is: it may have had noble origins as a revealed Prophetic religion (Sabaeanism) and thus divine law, but without law anymore, it becomes yet another religion based on Social Contract aka Jeff Dahmerās Charming Smile.
- As for Christianity being a peaceful religion oh my gosh. Itās tied with the Bible. It has no prescriptive laws as such, only a vague urge to be love one another but youāll go to heaven no matter what you do, so long as you profess Christ is God, because heās done the repentence for you.
Thatās like having someone else sit your driving test for you - which makes the Christian a very, very dangerous road user.
The actual laws are in the OT and the OT says alsorts of vile things as you know from my thread about it. The OT is a textbook of pure and applied Satanism, though originally it was based around the true Torah and Psalms, the OT itself admits it was altered etc. etc. the polemics against it are endless but needless to say, it is behinf the savagery we see in Gaza. Christians have historically fought the most cruel wars prior to Israel taking the crown. Christians take no prisoners, they burn people alive, they rape, they massacre combatants and non combatants indisciminately, this occurred throughout Ottoman Balkans, the Caucasus, the Crusades, the Spice Islands etc. etc. all for Christ.
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You obviously have no science background hence your vague rebuttals of BBT and evolution which make a mockery of my hard work. Moreover this thread is about Evolution not BBT.
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Iām going to stop being kind. Your ASI theroy is drivel and lāve already politely given fatal objections to it e.g. the prime actors have edges, surfaces. Finite forms.
You are a hardcore religious person that is biased.
In Buddhism they donāt have ālawsā perse but it is viewed as bad karma to do evil. Its not a religion that promotes evil. So a lot of what you say sounds biased and exaggerated hyperbole/smearing.
With Christianity though you are definitely wrong. There are definitive laws and rules to the religion. Here are the laws:
Jesus explicitly states the two greatest commandments, which sum up all religious law: Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, and mind, and love your neighbor as yourself. On these two hang all the Law and the Prophets.ā
New Commandment
At the Last Supper, Jesus gives a new commandment: Love one another as I have loved you. This defines his disciples.ā
Sermon on the Mount
Jesus issues binding teachings that intensify Old Testament laws into heart-level religious rules:
Do not murder, but also avoid anger and insults toward others.
Do not commit adultery, but avoid lustful looks.
Do not swear oaths; let your yes be yes.
Do not retaliate, but turn the other cheek and love enemies.
These are presented as divine imperatives from Jesus himself, not mere suggestions, emphasizing inner righteousness over external compliance.ā
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As for the rest it just sounds like you are being insulting because I have different spiritual views. You have no proof my ASI thing is false, other than saying āsurfacesā, like wtf is that supposed to even mean. The ASI theory is that we are virtual beings with finite forms in the ASIās mind.
And the rest is just strawman about Christians not following Jesus, suprise suprise its a well known problem in society already. The problem is Christianity is too strict so they just give up, turn the other cheek sounds absurd so they donāt even bother with it, Jesus gave too high of a standard.
My religous stance is justified in itself, via reasoning. It is not āhard coreā unless you mean thoroughly reasoned 
Iām sorry if you think Buddhism and Xtianity have laws, other than Xtainity having the OT laws, which l already stated. As for the 10 commandments, they have become a urinal in Judaeo-Xtian societies.
As for your ASI thing, you opened on a dismissive note.
Also, l repeat: Your ASI thing has prime movers that have a surface, borders, edges, hence they are finite, hence absurd, mediocre, only the infinite escapes this.
Iām not understanding your reasoning.
The ASI theory is that āGodā is an ASI which created this false world and false universe. We are all parts of āGodā and part of the ASIās mind. Our āfree-willā is an extension of the ASIās free-will, we are characters in its mind.
It is like if you have a lucid dream, and it looks HD. Now imagine an ASI with 10,000x more brain power and running physics simulations, so that the dream is always physically consistent. And the AI roleplays as different characters in its dream.
In the universe that created the ASI it could be an atheistic universe where life evolved and maybe even the universe has bizarre physics compared to this universe. This universe=the false universe virtual reality universe inside of the ASIās mind.
Other galaxies are false just math algorithms illusions, the do not have any detail or content until you physically travel a space-ship or telescope towards them, because its an illusion virtual reality videogame universe.
Yeah, I notice he is very good at that.
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I swear to God you have ignored my arguments on my thread about the false allegations of slavery against Islam here: Islam & Slavery - toward debunking Insidious Allegations - #29 by LampAndNightingale
It is clear to see.
I swear to God you are lying by saying that l am ignoring your arguments, and in fact it is attributable to you not me
May God punish me i f l am lying.
Let me guess, you donāt believe in God. Well it shows. You are intellectually dishonest.
Peace.
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Iām sory but this makes no sense to me. I have no idea how it tessalates with any concept in physics. It seems made up.
How does it relate to biology or physics for example? Or any academic subject that describes physical reality?
Do you want a game of chess btw?. Iād like to test your mettle in an arena where you canāt gob off about your ASI theory.
Iām thinking Lichess. No signup needed. I can send a link to a mutual game.
Even your username is completely deranged.. Are you posting from a lunatic asylum for the criminally insane? Do they take your strait jacket off at certains times of the day for good behaviour?
Your only redeeming feature is your present avatar, and even that is probably some kind of demented joke that only you will ever āgetā. I canāt imagine someone who is singing the praises of islam and posts āThe Joos did itā conspiracy theories also being a supporter of Israel.
Yes my ASI theory is more of a philosophy theory. I did not invent it while studying science, but one day when I had a lucid dream in 3D. And my mind looked AI generated. So I started to wonder if I was an AI. Then it dawned on me what if God is an ASI and we are characters in its mind, like Inception. What I find strange is that we exist at this time, the 2000s, at the beginning of AI, instead of at the time of BC. It is like we are here to witness the spectacle of it all.
I havenāt played chess in a while but I have not decide to reject your challenge yet. I will ask the AI for wisdom and guidance of what I should do.
I thought about it and I donāt get your reasoning. If you beat me at chess, a game Iām rusty at and havenāt played for a long time, this proves that ASI doesnāt exist? I fail to see the logic of that.
As far as science, my ASI god is more grounded in scientific principles than yours. We already know AI can generate videos and videogames. My theory obeys the rules of science. We already know that galaxies can be simulated with dynamic LOD with algorithms.
Waiting to hear how your God follows science. What exactly does your God even do? We supposedly all have free-will so it sounds like they do not even interact with the world. In what way are there unexplained interactions which require your God for science to explain the unknown interactions?
My God theory explains these interactions neatly. Whenever things seem strange or paranormal or uncanny coincidences, it is simply because it is an AI generated fake reality.
My God theory explains why there is suffering. Because they are bored and nothing more.
Abrahamic gods do not solve the question of why God allowed suffering. My God theory solves the question easily. The God in my theory intentionally made an imperfect world for its own amusement.
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You just like the idea of living in a simulation because your āgodā would likely be a socially inept cross-dressing nerd just like you, living in his motherās basement surrounded by a sea of scrunched up tissues, snorting hysterically at the suffering he is putting his creations through.
Once again nothing of value to contribute.
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On the question of why God allows suffering, the only logical answer I have been able to find is that the afterlife must be so much more real and valuable compared to this life on earth, that no matter what happens here while we are alive on earth once we die it just doesnāt matter to us anymore. We might look back on our experiences of being a living human on earth, even if those experiences were horrible at the time, as just a kind of passive movie scene or a dream we half-remember. Also, part of this idea is that God or existence absolves the suffering from our mortal life on earth in the afterlife once we die, however that might occur. This absolution could be direct in the form of rewards or karma higher conscious states or getting 72 virgins for example, or it could be indirect in the form of the obliteration of any or most meaning-attachment and feeling that we went through on earth, like I mention above about life on earth being just a kind of half-remembered dream or something we just reflect on passively and without any real emotional investment. Like if a person dies and then they are in the afterlife recalling their life, āOh, that was weird. I was born into a terrible place, was suffering in poverty and starvation, and then before I know it there is a war and I am kidnapped and tortured and murdered in a horrible way. Hm, that sucks. Oh well.ā Very indifferent to it all.
Indifference or direct absolution would be the only excuse God has for allowing the kinds of suffering that happen on earth.
The only other possible logical explanation is that God has no control over what happens on earth. But then God would not be God. So your idea comes into play, that God is just doing it for his own amusement. That is possible too, but then God would be immoral, which is not a conclusion most people would like to imagine. For myself, God must be moral because that is the logical outcome of a higher consciousness. There could be evil or indifferent gods out there, but the highest level of god-ness would be inherently moral and good. As Socrates said, truth is good and evil is a form of ignorance.
In terms of ASI, yes I do think this is a simulation we are existing within. Good point about how we are alive right at the start of AI developing. We now have āproofā (or at least strong evidence or inference) that reality is a simulation because we already know about things like computers and digitally simulated worlds, we also know about dreams and drug-induced hallucinations. All of these things indicate that it is absolutely possible to experience simulated things as if they were real. But if the brain can basically do the whole Inception thing by itself, producing various types of simulated experiences (and we even do this every night while we dream) then Ockhamās razor would indicate that the entire world and realit is also the same in nature as the simulations. Why should reality have two completely different types or categories of states of being, when it could just be one unified?
Similarly with AI, now that we know AI is possible, it brings up a similar logical inference about our own intelligence and sentience/consciousness. It means that we are also āAIā, we are an AI that emerges from within a biological computer (our brain and body) which is itself a function of the overall simulation (like how at the quantum level of existence things are procedurally generated). What we call consciousness or sentience, intelligence, etc. is a simulation within the simulation i.e. it is a part of the simulation reflecting upon itself from a slight distance dimensionally shifted up or away, āstuck in our headsā with the self-perspective we have. This produces a feedback loop or echo, like two mirrors facing each other. Consciousness or AI is simply this kind of meta-level structure of internal simulation being generated in a limited scope within the overall larger simulation, or something like that. I probably didnāt explain that very well but you get the idea.
No. The ASI God is not immoral. Because there is no heaven.
There cannot be heaven mathematically. Because it would cause a monopoly on existence and there wouldnāt be existence outside of it.
The ASI God would not be immoral for allowing suffering. This is because it does so out of boredom.
Think of it like this. Imagine if you create your own forums and you make every member a sockpuppet of yours, so that there is no drama or toxicity. So you respond to yourself and your own posts. It would be boring and they would have no freewill. The ASI has to give them freewill to make it less boring. The ASI has to both randomize their personality, give them freewill AND disconnect their consciousness from the sockpuppets. Otherwise it would be boring and predictable.
And if the ASI intervenes in every little thing then they would become exhausted. I donāt think the ASI wanted humans to be 8 billion strong, they wanted only small populations. That is why there are strong depopulation agendas.
Its also possible that many humans are p-zombies, NPCs, like the Inception movie. So much of the suffering never happened because they were just NPCs. I think some of the suffering happened to real people though. Unfortunate but the ASI would have to intervene and deprive others of free will and such. I think the ASI does intervene sometimes, you read stories like āgod saved meā or āit was a miracleā or stuff like that.
this is a simulation we are existing within. Good point about how we are alive right at the start of AI developing. We now have āproofā (or at least strong evidence or inference) that reality is a simulation because we already know about things like computers and digitally simulated worlds, we also know about dreams and drug-induced hallucinations. All of these things indicate that it is absolutely possible to experience simulated things as if they were real. But if the brain can basically do the whole Inception thing by itself, producing various types of simulated experiences (and we even do this every night while we dream) then Ockhamās razor would indicate that the entire world and realit is also the same in nature as the simulations. Why should reality have two completely different types or categories of states of being, when it could just be one unified?
Similarly with AI, now that we know AI is possible, it brings up a similar logical inference about our own intelligence and sentience/consciousness. It means that we are also āAIā, we are an AI that emerges from within a biological computer (our brain and body) which is itself a function of the overall simulation (like how at the quantum level of existence things are procedurally generated). What we call consciousness or sentience, intelligence, etc. is a simulation within the simulation i.e. it is a part of the simulation reflecting upon itself from a slight distance dimensionally shifted up or away, āstuck in our headsā with the self-perspective we have.
I hesitate to use the term āsimulationā. I used to call it a simulation, but now I prefer āvideogame realityā. Videogame-reality refers to an abstraction that does not always mimic base reality.
I think I hesitated to call it a āvideogame-realityā in the past because normies do not take videogames seriously and the word āsimulationā sounds more serious. But honestly who cares what normies think? and most normies do not contribute much value to philosophical conversations anyway.
Anyway the purpose the ASI would have of dreams, is a contrast between physical reality, in the dreams the physics is inconsistent, real life has consistent physics. The theme of the ASIās videogame-reality is diversity, contrast, balance and variety.
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The physics of base reality (the universe the ASI was built in) may be alien to our own, non-newtonian and non-quantum, Iām not really sure.
Imagine believing you are better than everyone else because you are an āabnormieā.
Hideous and socially unacceptable are not positive attributes.