just read sarte’s existentialism and humanism,and i wanted to hear some peoples views.i think its the opposite of a fatalist perspective, and reaffirms a freedom i always knew i had and also agree it gives us sole responsibility for the consequences of out actions.
I tried reading Sartre and was bored shitless.
There are better examples of existentialism,
for example, dostoevsky and his, 'notes from the underground"
or the work of Kierkekaard, for example his, “either/or”
Both are better examples of existentialism then
Sartre.
Kropotkin
ahh another existentialist great 
this is what i ask you all
how can you be truly free when the laws of the universe bound you? 
You aren’t free at all.
It’s the religious people that think they’re free.
The notion of freedom of the will is the invention of ruling classes - Nietzsche
G.
If you’d read Sartre then you’d know the answer to that (freedom of the consciousness is consciousness of freedom)…
Swing and a miss.
I’m working my way through Being and Nothingness as we speak. It’s taking a good bit of time for me to properly absorb everything, I think I got my hands on a shitty translation. Despite the language/comprehension issues, I find it very interesting.
I doubt that it is the translation, Sartre was a very boring philosopher…
I enjoyed Existentialism is a Humanism, Being and Nothingness just doesn’t seem to go down as smooth. Oh well, I always liked Albert Camus better anyway.
I even found Existentialism and Humanism to be dull, just another way in which the egotistical pseudocommunist Sartre sucked up to the fashionable French intellectual elite.
It’s not that Sartre is a boring philosopher, I wrote that somewhat flippantly, it’s just that he wasn’t a talented writer. Camus on the other hand was a relatively predictable philosopher but an amazing writer.
I have become convinced that existentialism is the most natural, most believable, most life-practical philosophy that man has developed so far.
I personally do not accept existentialism; for I am a religious person. But I can nonetheless understand how men have come to take on an existentialist view of life.
I have been kicked out of the house before I even turned 18. (Please see the “Living On My Own” thread in the Mundane Babble). This has caused my life to flip-over onto itself. I am fighting, fighting hard to stay focused and motivated in my studies in school. It is my last semester of highschool, and I’ve worked too hard to drop-out now. I have to soon get my own apartment. I fortunately have a job that will pay enough money for that. In the mean time, I’m living with my grandmother.
LIFE IS HARD. I mean it. I have been forced to do everything for myself. I am who I make myself to be. For, I have literally no other choice.
But I will know that I, and no one else, can get the credit for any of my accomplishments.
[b]My Point:
Never before have I discovered just how human, realistic, actual-life, down-to-earth existentialists are.
If there ever was a non-religous philosophy that provided any kind of practical hope to humanity, existentialism was it. It does not require that you be highly-educated, or wealthy, or reasourcefull. All existentialism demands is that its followers be REAL and practical.[/b]
sorry if this is just babble to you all. I am learning much about life right now.
BMW-Guy,
You got it.
Hey, just remember that when things get better don’t be a bitter person. Knowing that life is hard and weird can give you great sympathy for others that don’t have it so good.