different experiances create different sensations, the collective sensations a human experiances, form our perceptions. conception is the forming/questioning of beliefs. our memory is the storehouse(rymnes with whorehouse)of our perceptions and conceptions. perceptions are the intake of information and coneptions are the orginization of this information into theorys and beliefs and preferances.
the hard part is when we try to pimp our ideas to others. we may find that our ideas are not as acceptable as we thought. this is were we need universally accepted truths to base our ideas on. i may have digressed a little but, we can have memories of perception and conception, the end result of thinking are our beliefs;
our beliefs are what motivate our actions, so our beliefs can have an effect on our experiances(as we have the freedom to choose our path). that said, our thoughts can’t change the fact that we are sentiant(pain/pleasure exist for us)or that were mortal(eat,drink,breath,die); our thoughts can’t change the perceptions we experiance while awake, so i’d sat that our body/environment has the greatest effect on our experiance. our thoughts have the greatest effect on our beliefs/motivation.
I am sorry for not responding to your entire post, but I was moved by just one phrase: “different experiances create different sensations”
This can neither be confirmed nor denied but my opinion is that though experiences are different, so that I have once been burned by a General electric Iron and another time by a Panasonic and another time by etc, etc, sensationaly all instances are grouped together and no division really felt. That is, I was burnt by all the same by the different irons, and these burns, by being unqualified as diversely, first degree burns each time said the doctor, as the irons failed to assure us that each sensation was unique.
Different experiences, it would seem, cannot guarantee different sensations as a judgement is involved in our reporting of our sensations to ourselves and others.
the sensation you feel while being burned has nothing to do with the brand of the iron, also a barbeque can burn you, so can a fire. what i was getting at is that the sensations(sight/sound/smell/taste/touch)which make up our experiances form our perceptions(awareness). each different experiance we have forms a different perception. when you burned yourself the second time
you noticed that they were different brands right? how is this(even in the subltest sense) not a different perception?
right now i know that my life will be full of repeat experiances, thats not to say they will be identical(thats rediculus)think of groundhog day the movie, how strange would it be to live the same day over and over? even the slightest difference in our environment attributes to the forming of a sligtly different perception. Our awareness is a part of the human condition.
perception is the collective intake of sensory information produced by our environment,
conception is the orginization of this information into theorys or ideas. if my idea portrays the enviroment as it actually is then my idea about the environment is true. perception is the sensing of real objects in our environment, thought cannot change the effect real objects have on us, therefore percpetions are out of our controll(disregarding the fact that thoughts can motivate our spatial movement and in turn change our environment)
its quite obvious i have the ability to change my surrounding by moving to a place that has different surroundings. but its not my thought that changed my
perception its the change of my environment that changed my perceptions.
Interesting, how can we know if our ideas about the environment are true or not? That presupposes that there exists a true way of looking at the environment outside any observers.
Let’s say you started believing an apple is a kind of banana, and then other people started believing it too. Before long, suppose everyone in the world believed an apple is a kind of banana. Then would it be right to say an apple is a kind of banana?
Interesting, how can we know if our ideas about the environment are true or not? That presupposes that there exists a true way of looking at the environment outside any observers.
no, that presuposses that an idea is a different than sense perception. a perception is the collective sensations one experiances while conscious of the external environment one is located in. an idea is an proposed account of the behaviour an object exibits when exposed to specific stimuli. an idea and a sense experiance are quite different.
when giving my account of an idea i realized later that i completely disregarded the imagination or creative aspect of idea forming. so i guess i really just gave an account of a theory. an idea has many forms.
I wonder what exactly an idea is. Is an idea just a sort of mental reaction to external or internal impulses? But, then emotion and desire would be a kind of idea, since some emotions are triggered from external stimuli. Another interesting question i’ve been thinking about is if we can mentally supress emotions by thought.
I seek the council of higher wisdom, please answer.
ideas can be creative, inventive, analytical, reasonable. ideas can be based on our experiace or others experiance. these are qualitys of ideas but dont say what the idea itself is. an idea is any thought one might have that pertains to a specific event, art is the representation of a moment or moments.