Explain Plato's myth of metal

and relate it to internet philosophy forums.

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It’s a metaphor for the out right objective truth that no one wants to admit. People are not created equal. Some people are smarter than others, some people are stronger, some people are smarter and stronger than others. Because of this. If TV stopped selling all these lies to children about how they can be what they want to be, then they’d know at an early age who they were even capable of being and they’d act out that role for the better of society.

Simply this Plato was a class/caste/rank snob of a most extreme nature!

People give out about poor Nietzsche but it was The Republic that contained the first carefully worked out scheme of Eugenics right down to the slaughter of “brass” babies born to “gold” parents - in order that his bizarre meritocratic city would thrive.

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It’s a good thing you’re not President.

We are not machines, we ought not try to be. Every human is entitled to follow their own interests, not just their own strengths. Society is meant to protect the individual, not enslave his mind!

“Plato is a bore.”–Nietzsche

Then Plato gets my vote for pragmatic clarity of thought, and understanding of Universal principle, not seen again since his passing.

Nature engages eugenics, ergo, it is necessary for the betterment of species. That we are a social animal, does not change that parameter.

Permette di sangue con flusso.

Plato’s myth of metal was lame… Nigel’s myth of metal was so much better… “this goes to eleven…”

-Imp

Why I have problems with Plato–He posed absolutes where none exist, disregarding Heraclitus.

Yeah… Plato was such a moron. It’s astonishing how stupid people have been for the past 2 millenia for remembering his name.

After two milennia the name of Jesus still is remembered. Plato was not a moron. His philosophy, plus whatever he stold from Socrates, directly influenced Western culture. It gave Christianity a philosophic logic for its tenets. See Clement of Alexandria or Augustine! If endurance could be a claim for truth, the Goddess deserves our consideration.

“Why don’t you make 10 louder instead?”
“Becuase this in 1 louder. See, it goes to 11.”

That wasn’t a myth, but fact.

Ironically knowledge and information is supposed to describe who shall be superior or inferior in society all the while claiming to be a relative proposition. :confused:

Beats the shit out of me. :laughing:

God damnit that’s a dam heresy son!

I am taking you into custody under the patriot act now you rebel child.

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You mean knowledge and information are relative?

DITTO!

Between groundless claims of absolutes, weak logic about the certainty of other worlds and their superiority to this one, and the fact that Plato/Socrates actually manufacture the evidence for their claims by offering self-written fictions as proof, I have a lot less awe for Plato and Socrates than is considered mandatory.

Thanks, APR. It seems few, out of their need to respect what others say as authoritative (a good tit to suck on), a respect even Socrates denies, can see the harm religious intolerance has caused over the centuries. The Plato/Paul concepts of absolutes existing in some otherworld have given us an attitude about this world that fails to address the ecological necessity of our existence, the reverence for this life, this world, these immediate relationships. There are no other criteria for morality than these considerations which so much of religion and philosophy would claim to be irrelevant.

Correct. :slight_smile:

What is it then? :slight_smile: :sunglasses: