Father - Daughter Talk

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A young woman was about to finish her first year of college. Like so many others her age, she considered herself to be a very liberal Democrat, and among other liberal ideals, was very much in favor of higher taxes to support more government programs; in other words, redistribution of wealth.

She was deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch Republican, a feeling she openly expressed. Based on the lectures that she had participated in, and the occasional chat with a professor, she felt that her father had for years harbored an evil, selfish desire to keep what he thought should be his.

One day, she was challenging her father on his opposition to higher taxes on the rich, and the need for more government programs. The self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professor had to be the truth,
and she indicated so to her father. He responded by asking how she was doing in school.

Taken aback, she answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0 GPA, and let him know that it was tough to maintain, insisting that she was taking a very difficult course load and was constantly studying, which left her no time to go out and party like other people she knew. She didn’t even have time for a boyfriend, and didn’t really have many college friends either because she spent all her time studying.

Her father listened, then asked, ‘How is your friend Audrey doing?’ She replied, ‘Audrey is barely getting by. A ll she takes are easy classes, she never studies, and she barely has a 2.0 GPA. She is so popular on campus; college for her is a blast. She’s always invited to all the parties, and lots of times she doesn’t even show up for classes because she’s too hung over.’

Her father asked her, ‘Why do n’t you go to the Dean’s office and ask him to deduct a 1.0 off your GPA and give it to your friend Audrey, who only has a 2.0? That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA, and certainly that would be a fair and equal distribution of GPA.’

The daughter, visibly shocked by her father’s suggestion, angrily fired back, ‘That’s a crazy idea! How would that be fair? I’ve worked really hard for my grades! I’ve invested a lot of time, and a lot of hard work. And she’s done next to nothing toward her degree. She played while I worked my tail off!’

The father slowly smiled and said gently, ‘Welcome to the Republican Party.’

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Beautiful.

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I don’t get it.

you realize one can not get blood from a stone.

And I bet you like nice paved roads to drive your fancy car on.

with out taxing the rich more than the poor where do you suppose Bush found all the money to blow

and the paved roads to drive on.

do you get it.

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You’re whole statement is based on confusing apples and oranges, and also ignorance.

Most people don’t own their own land or means of production, therefore by the money system they are indentured servants to property owners and capital, therefore we need government otherwise anarchy would ensue.

The illusion “hard work” produces wealth or that somehow you are “worthy” by your “hard work”, neglects the facts of dependency and unequal distribution of power and means to survive and the relative value of work, everyone knows people who are poor that work just as hard as anyone else. The fact is, usury has nothing to do with hard work or merit and all forms of investment are a form of usury. i.e. gaining something by owning a part of it, but not performing any work to add value to what you own.

People think they “add value” by simply having a piece of ownership, that is their fallacy.

Welcome to the world of true reason, rathre then the father who’s a mere barbarian who can’t think himself out of a wet paper bag.

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If the only factors affecting someone’s wealth was how hard they worked and how skilled they were at what they did then this little anecdote would make sense.

But when education, wealth of family, geographical location, race, age, gender, social class, manner of speaking and personal contacts have such an influence, it’s just crap. Not that I believe in state imposed socialism, but there’s no way if you remove the power of the state that we’ll become more meritocratic as a society.

So fuck the dad in this story, and his whinnying, pathetic, egotistical bullshit. State control and corporate control are in essence the same thing.

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Man that is lucid, can we get “Most Lucid” awards? :slight_smile: