The root meaning of the word yara is “to flow” and is related to words meaning rain or stream as a flowing of water. In Hebrew thought, fear can be what is felt when in danger or what is felt when in the presence of an awesome sight or person of great authority. These feelings flow out of the person in such as actions as shaking when in fear or bowing down in awe of one in authority. ancient-hebrew.org/27_fear.html
Note: Religion (or scripture) is completely irrelevant within this definition. One may “yara” The Queen of England in one way of the other.
To some degree your scripture definition of fear is true. For example, if I met Jr Wells in person (he has passed away), I would not dare challenge or bet against his musical authority within the Blues (not because I think he would slap me like a bitch but because I respect his authority). Authority in English has become a dirty word within our individualistic society.
It is a flaw in the English language to allow a single word like “fear” to have so much variation in nuance and interpretation. It makes being confident of the intention of another’s work all the more dubious.
Fear is an experience of one’s limit. It can be natural or it can be artificially induced (as in case of authority). A fearless person would have to be delusional.
Everyone is delusional. A fearless person is merely one who accepts the flow of his delusion such as to not over react and presume needlessly.
All of society is merely a stage play wherein so many accept the pretentious scene, they cause it to become real. Along with the game comes the illusion of authority and its dangers. A king is only a king because people accept that he is and treat him as such. Fear is created merely by going along with the play, like jumping at a startling moment in a film.
The mind cannot easily distinguish between what is merely pretended into reality and what is a truly urgent hope or threat from reality. Thus fear and false hopes are designed into a society through pretense until enough people are engulfed into its maze of mis-perceptions, its “Matrix” of delusional hopes and fears.
Not about winning the debate really, it’s about the knowledge. Knowledge is the bane of fear. What you learn at first you may be fearful of what you find, but as you delve deeper into that subject it is no longer scary.
But that’s coercive ‘respect’, it isn’t real… They are only in awe because this being is powerful, not because they want to be. True respect needs no force or coercion.
When you are forced to respect something it kind of defeats the purpose of respecting them. Take for example, a child coerced into respecting their parent because the parent is older and is the parent, etc. That child will rebel a lot more than a child who has real respect for their parents. This can probably be said for any living creature.
You spank a dog and coerce it into giving you respect I promise you one day that dog will bite you if it ever has the guts. A lot easier to train the dog with treats to gain real respect, it will love you forever.
Yeah, a million people vs a one king. Who would win? The million people would obviously win, they are the submissive ones who give the king his power by letting him pretend to play king, when in reality he is no more better than the rest of them. Of course unless in some cases where there is that slim chance of the king being an actual great leader. But if not, then he is simply pretending to play king and the submissive let him wear the crown.
People often just accept “what is” without realizing they are the ones who get to choose what is with a lot of different subjects and ideals.
You’re never very far away from fear and you’ll never be free from it, even with all of the knowledge and courage in the world. Courage and respect aren’t from the absence of fear, but by the presence of it. If there was nothing in this world to keep you in check, would you do so your self? If there were no reason, no matter how tempered it becomes, why would you rise to face anything at all? You fear so many different things happening. Fear is not always a bad thing. In the idea of God, to fear God is to respect. You need not fear that he will destroy you if you choose not to follow his rules; such is ridiculous; but to fear the possibility, that he could. It is to respect the fact that there are other forces in the world and yes, if you do not play nice with them, they will not be so inclined to play nice with you and if you won’t respect it, you will come ot fear it and if you choose not to fear it, you might just respect it; you can’t really distance them from each other. You could taste death tomorrow and it would be with a certain mixed emotion of fear, adrenaline and respect. Fear, even compensated for, is still fear and is still there.
Yes, but why would those millions of people attack the King they allowed to rule them without cause? If such a King were to do their job and to do it well then why would they ever change him out even if he made a few mistakes? The King would win most battles between those million people and if not, he would not be fit to be King of them, for how would he have earned or secured his title, if not by being better than them?
He can be better at one or a few things but never better in all. It depends on what the people need for that specific time and era, what kind of leading they need really. If they are in a resource crisis, would they be electing a king that knows how to war or one who knows how to trade? The people get to choose who leads them regardless and when they don’t, that person is not fit to be leader because that person is using coercion to get what they want, similar to a dictator. Just concealed better.
The forces don’t play nice the majority of the time regardless of people playing nice, that statement kind of makes it sound like things revolve around humanity and life outside of our own creations. I don’t fear ‘god’ and if they are asking for respect well I don’t respect them either, if they wanted respect so bad they would end a bit of suffering wouldn’t they? Not just throw his creation that they ‘love’ so much into chaos and leave them. I don’t fear the possibility of their existence because I am near 100% positive there isn’t anything there to fear. What’s keeping me in check from doing what I want exactly? The ‘law’? What if i’m not fearful of dying? I am not denying I am not fearful of things, just not the things others are so fearful about. Not fearful of dying, not fearful of a deity or outside forces, not fearful of people or their laws and prisons. This does not mean I am going to go on a killing spree because I have the option to, it is because I have the knowledge gained to realize “what would that benefit me or anyone around me?” Absolutely nothing really, it is only ignorantly throwing more chaos into other chaos. I also have the respect towards life to not do such a unnecessary violent assault. The most precious gift someone has is their own life, regardless of if they realize it or not. Who am I to end it when they never got the choice to have it in the first place, it’s their own choice to end or keep going, no one else’s.
Coercion and fear are not what keep everyone in check, if so don’t you think there would be a lot less crime than now (concealed and evident crime).
There is no need or requirement to be better. The king must merely be a convenient and reasonably talented figurehead - a politician serving the authority that the people cannot attack, fore in their game of pretense, they never see its concertmaster.
I agrree with this 100%. English is a whore of a language (borrowed langauge) and so there is no logical and/or symbolical consistancy within it. This is not a problem of relgious origin but a problem of the development of the Englush language.
I agree with English being flawed as well, it needs to be redefined. It reminds me of how Terence Mckenna was talking about how language > culture. I am not sure if I remember it correctly it was a while ago, but I think he was saying that language is what creates culture and is pretty much the lining of it, a world of language. I will have to watch it again.
“The medium of language and every culture accentuates different parts of reality so that in a sense every culture is a different reality.”
“What is unusual about Earth is that language, literally, has become alive. It has infested matter. It is replicating and defining and building itself. And it is in us.”
Terence McKenna
I am just going to throw this quote out there too… It is the perfect quote representation of what I am always trying to say. Since I am always saying “God is knowledge”.
“That’s what a god is. Somebody who knows more than you do about whatever you’re dealing with.”
Terence McKenna
Whether or not the English language needs to be redefined or not is irrelevant. It cannot be redefined within our short life according to our will. It is a far greater task than trying to redefine the Internet. It is up to each individual to understand its nuances and proceed with caution when there may be doubt (rather than jump to false conclusions). The great advantage of having these nuances is that rich poetry can be written. Language would be awfully dull if we removed these nuances as it would be robotic and technical.
I would think that in order to feel the kind of thrill that he might sensate, being there at the edge, there would have to be a mixture of fear there somewhere.
Why does it have to be only one sensation? He might be experiencing awe, wonderment, fear, thrill - also a sense of gratitude for having made it to the top.
I don’t hold with the biblical terminology of fear being reverence and awe because I don’t experience reverence and awe in that way myself. But I suppose that it might partly represent god’s omnipotence and because of that, some might hold god in a fearful kind of reverence and awe. But where there is Love, real Love, how can fear be toward the other?
I look at a giant wave or a star and i experience awe in the moment. Of course, if it looks as though that giant wave will suddenly envelope me, I will experience fear then but at the same time I tend to feel that the awe will also be there.
How could a giant wave (not coming at me) or a star give me a sense of terror or danger - that I might want to take flight?
Except those are two different things completely, not a feeling. Describing two different feelings with the same word is bound to confuse or just not make sense imo.
Obviously tree bark and a dog barking are two different things completely. A feeling, of reverence/respect and awe compared to terror. Both being feelings just doesn’t make sense. If they (religious) meant it as what you’re trying to say (awe/respect) they would not have added in coercive methods of getting people to do what they wanted. Real respect doesn’t need coercion or ‘deals’, thus they aren’t wanting respect but they are wanting obeying by scaring. If this was not the case, there would be no need for the creation of hell, demons, evil or Satan for their story.
But wouldn’t you say that there could be more or less a “common” sensation of how bark feels on a tree? Bark on a tree may feel hard when it is still attached to that tree. Off the tree, it has a rough, gritty, course kind of feeling to it.
But the bark of many dogs may be harder or courser than that of the bark.
Could the human brain possibly lend itself to someone sensating the bark of a tree to such a different degree?
Part of the problem is the words - the words which we use to express ourselves. The “beetle in the box” not only looks different but also feels different. I think that some of us are simply more in touch, awareness wise, when it comes to expressing sensations with words. Our inner narrations are born from our outer perception.
