a kid believes in santa…
santa will bring a gift each year…
one year santa does not come with gift…
what does kid think?
now kid doesnt believe in santa…
kid is depressed but is told there is a god to replace santa…
kid waits and things go well for awhile
but then disaster strikes and kid wonders what did i do wrong? kid is more depressed…
you can pay a big price for fixed false beliefs…
like human depression…
thank you
as some philosopher said----------
god didnt create man…man created god…
Tell that to the Creationists… this would go down a riot in the Religious forum 
Man creates concepts thinking that it will appease our depressive nature, but it only fuels it in the long run when the concepts cease to have the desired effect - we have to find the antidepressant from within us, not without.
good post magsj—please tell more about what would happen if this were moved to the religion forum???
Maybe God wants you to stop the self pity and resolve the problems on your own.
is this a fixed false belief of yours??
I don’t know, what determines whether a belief is false or true?
you determine what is false or true…
Well, SG DID say maybe…so NO. I’d say he sees it as simply an intuitive possibility on his part. 
And an ‘ip’ is not a fixed false belief.
For me, a fixed false belief is like a coccoon that a butterfly can never break out of - unless he’s lucky enough to have someone come and tear it open. Fear of changing one’s perspective/worldview because one might be put into a dystopian world for awhile where one might need to re-create himself causes us to remain comfortable and inert…
A man takes a walk outside at night and looks up at the sky and ‘believes’ that he has seen a UFO…for the very first time! Since he emphatically believes in his heart and mind that he saw what he saw - how is he to determine the truth of it? Does it end there, to his utmost satisfaction, since he has always ‘felt’ that there are UFOs and also species from other planets, thus protecting his heart’s desire or does he step out of his comfort zone and away from what his sensory perceptions are apparently telling him - and take the time to question what might be seen as simply an illusions on his part? Does he look for physical evidence or information or the lack of it to discover the truth? Does he question ‘where he was’ psychologically and emotionally in the moment when he saw what he saw? Does he take ‘another look’ outside to determine if what he saw is still there but apparently not what he thought it was? Does he search through the internet and news to discover if others saw this too? Etcetera. Or is he just so deperate to believe that curiosity/reality/logic/intelligence is sacrificed in the name of comfort and belief?
Or another he or she decides that UFOs could not be alien spacecraft and somehow knows that anyone who believes they are is deluded and this is that person’s fixed false belief.
Or someone believes, without proof, that scientific methodology is the only way to arrive at correct descriptions of reality. This fixed false belief may or may not lead to negative emotional consequences for the specific individual. One definite side effect is a sense of superiority in relation to some people who hold beliefs that cannot be demonstrated scientifically and this dynamic gives the ‘rational’ person some false sense of okayness since they begin to define themselves in terms of what they (think they) are not.
Sounds like some beliefs that have not been demonstrated via the scientific method. One person’s rationality is another person’s ‘sound intuition’.
Could not be does not necessarily enter the picture. Nevertheless, one might realize that there can be any number of government entities flying around that he and/or the public is not aware of. No one said ‘knows’. A UFO is still an ‘unidentified flying object’ and as such may not be an illusion but simply unidentifiable. But one who is desperate to believe in alien nations and species (perhaps out of a sense of loneliness and alienation) might just forego any reason and logic that there is thus far no strong scientific evidence that any conscious kind of life form remotely resembling us (not that it would have to of course 
) may or can actually exist on other planets or in other galaxies - ergo, what he sees is transformed into what he chooses to see. Our minds are capable of putting on any number of shows.
But like the god thingy, we can’t know, and particular ideas/thoughts are possible or at least plausible.
You did not say knows, however your post presents the situation as if it is understood that any person believing ‘their’ UFO is actually a spacecraft has made the set of psychological/logical errors listed there. As far as government entities, their existence and any capabilities matching what some people have witnessed makes their explanations more valid then weather balloons and poor psychological tendencies on the part of the witnesses.
Sure, such a person might.
You mean you could not have experiences with an alien spacecraft that would convince it was not a weather balloon, air force jet or hallucination? That seems unlikely to me.
in a certain sense everyone just has beliefs and perceptions…why would you try to discuss with someone who is delusional or hallucinating?? again maybe the idea of the truth is just another belief that we cant be sure of…this has been talked about on ilp many times…nothing new…
we know very little about the real god…
the important nature of creation is unknown both as to life and the creation of matter and energy but we are getting closer…
thank you
Are we getting closer?
Just barely I suspect, thank God much of life is a mystery, else us philosophers would have little else to occupy us.