Forget philosophy. I'll soon have all the answers.

I’m all for finding other feedback loops still stable, I think your ability to lateralize between the left and right hemispheres is mostly intact. My personality type slaves your area your part of the mind that your most active in, in my mind… it’s built heavily upon it, but isn’t actually it, it’s another region all together… I don’t have as much control over the basal ganglia as you do. I’m guessing we both have a 50-50 chance of identifying in ourselves a pathway he isn’t using correctly. There are a few pathways that go through your zone that doesn’t touch upon mine as much, I’m aware of,pathway them to a degree, but deal with them differently. Its the old Da’at vs Keter issue in Kaballah. Keter controls Da’at, but isn’t Da’at, Da’at is aware of Later, but doesn’t control it, but can exploit it as the function matures to a very high degree.

Just… it’s largely unknown territory with PE, if he is a schitzo, not all are necessarily suffering the same- there is variety in that population. Essentially, yeah… we would be rebuilding him. I generally turn away forcing someone out of their personality type, it can be done, but like… nature made them that way for a reason, if it’s a stable, functional type, I say let them have it, just be wise within it.

In PE’s case… fuck. We may nail it down exactly… but if he is absolutely biologically incapable of it, then it’s something you write off. We can try The King’s Speech approach and just train him up, hoping he starts sprouting white brain matter, but I’m a philosopher, not a doctor… I don’t actually know what proteins in which organelle is throwing stuff in his mind off, rate of regrowth if we do come up with a clever logical technique. I think we can ethically try to map it out, test him for logical inconsistencies- a equivalent to The Wisconsin Card Test, and apply methods to see if he can learn over time… it will be really helpful to a lot of philosophers, physicians, etc., who ate Googling for a alternative… but we can’t be telling him to take certain meds, or get off his meds… it’s dramatically beyond our scope of knowledge, we aren’t trained in pharmacology. It has to be pure philosophy, we we gotta feel our way for ethical limits.

So yeah… if PE stays on this site, and we all increasingly become aware of nuisances in his behavior, we can either ignore him, or regrow his head… if that is even possible, or at least make him… functional, somewhat reasonably consistent… he won’t think exactly normal, but there is bound to be a detour through some auxillary function. Its more than likely will pass through mine or your area, may be more than one pathway we uncover.

Just… it’s a option. I honestly doubt we can fuck him up worst applying variations of logic… just know this guy will come with a angry trigger if he doesn’t feel he is seen as super fucking amazing genius boy. You just gotta accept it if you press to hard, don’t go running to a moderator every time he explodes on you for trying.

Number obsessives are usually able to function in society alright, they’re generally not violent or unstable. PE exhibits no sign of hostile aggression in his posts although he is a gangsta rapper. We’ve heard him drop mad bombs mathematically and lyrically so far. Perhaps he’ll be the first one to drop the cipher.

Look at me encouraging him. So wrong. PE forget I said any of that. There is no cipher, no grand unified theory, no numerical code… For the same reasons godel says all theorems are incomplete and vitkenshtein says a total set of statements about something cannot exist, but explanations must come to an end somewhere. Or maybe he didn’t say that. He said something like that though.

Okay, I’ll forget everything you guys said, regarding philosophy being the foundation that cannot be abandoned and the entertaining trolling of Turd’s grasp on so many topics and their details without having a real conclusion, like Stephen Colbert’s character.

I’ll just say a few things.

A. I learned that’s it better to blow people’s minds without using guns.

B. Earth’s Diameter = 7920 Miles = 360° x 22 (22 Circles); Moon’s Diameter = 2160 Miles = 360° x 6 (6 Circles); 22 Circles + 6 Circles = 28 Circles. 28 x 360° = 10080°; we have 126 Appendicular Bones and 80 Axial Bones; 126 x 80 = 10080°. This is not schizophrenia. This is what the web of consciousness that governs the macro realm doesn’t want to admit to. This is why NASA is lying to us.

Can you show me the mathematical proof that it is better to buy a candy bar than steal it, or the proof that its better if I forgive somebody, or the proof that patriotism is better than sedition, or proof that one country shouldn’t attack another?

I hate to pull a biguous on you, but why on earth am I always of the opinion that i understand the manner by which I come to understand the manner of conflicting existential goods, if all I have are a few mathematical statements, as it were?

If you do not steal, your vibrations will create perfect geometry.

If you do steal, your vibrations will create a sticky mess with no geometry like a black widow’s web.

I don’t think the euthyphro dillemna (complimentary causality) would bother PE, because his teachings seem to be singular moments, outside of time. THe numbers seem to indicate absolute properties, with no regard to movement. Since there is no movement through time for most of his teachings, there is no need for him to use calculus.

Time is simply the number 144 according to PE. It is an absolute. Consciousness is the number 5, according to PE. Why is consciousness the number 5? Why its just is.

With PE he provides you the absolutes, what is, is, there’s nothing deeper to understand. Just find a couple numbers, then do some research to find numbers that match it, carefully choosing addition, subtraction, division, squaring or reversing the numbers to make the numbers fit, which is not hard because there are only ten digits to choose from, plus you get 5 options. If the numbers do not fit just pull some more research and find other numbers to fit, and claim a connection. If the research gets too tiresome then just pull some random numbers out of thin air to complete the equation. The equation need not follow the laws of mathematics, but as long as the numbers can be reversed or divided by ten or added together in some similar way, they fit. The english language is a sacred text, as well as mathematics, but it is an incomplete code, you must multiply the letters by 6.

If, for example, he tells you consciousness equals 5, and you ask him to explain it, he will just redirect you to a bunch of numbers. Numbers are the absolute. There is nothing more to understand about consciousness, just the number 5. Once you understand numbers, you understand everything. Except, not enough to make actual inventions or practical powers in real life, except of course, curing cancer, which he won’t explain except for posting large volumes of data that don’t tell you how to make the machine, which are a bit like Ecmandu’s “inventions” in that they have no connection to reality and are simply large volumes of unorganized data. It’s a bit like claiming you know how to program videogames just by having dozens of pages of statistical data about videogame demographics, even if you’ve never programmed a videogame before.

Jerkey’s post are a bit the opposite. They are equally hard to understand, but that is because he doesn’t make enough connections at all. Most of the ideas are floating in his head and you have to use psychic powers to connect the words to the ideas he had floating in his head. He uses a lot of vague pronouns that direct things to unsaid items in his head that he assumes we connect with. PE, on the other hand, is the opposite. He writes down every single connection in his head.

Coil guns are a one shot wonder, you cannot mass murder anyone with it, not even Dairy Queens. It is not illegal, because it is not illegal to print children’s books showing diagrams of how revolvers work, nor is it illegal to make a youtube video explaining gun mechanics. This is America, not Chicago.

What if a take a gun from a drunk person without their consent? What are the vibrations of that? How do we use numbers to determine whether or not my actions are justified doing that. The guy is drunk afterall, but who am I to decide he is not fit to have a gun? Explain how we would figure all this out using your method of explanation.

Phonetic eth-x, not ultimate trixie 1001.

Completely unexpected insight from Trixie.

Assuming what Phonetic Ethics thinks is “sane” and “proper” in and of itself for the regions of his mind still functioning properly, assuming it is a network failure, what does this sell us about Relavity in relation to time.

Note he has as you describe it, a absolute sense of time. It has no causal relations beyond recognition of pattern and symbols. Our physics predicate upon relativity, and we throw a lot of math into it.

Likewise Monism, be it the universal monism of Liebniz, or the perceptive phenomological Non-Dualism of the Astravakra Gita, both are a play on numbers that determine.

I can go so far as to say relativity, causality, and time is dictated by Sympatheia, it is indeed descended from it in the west, but in Phonetic Ethics, he is straddling the Stoic concept and the Platonist hierarchies of Daemons won over or warded away by magical formulas. He seems to accept both systems, without a understanding of any mechanistic theory of natural physics, in terms of cause and effects independent of numbers. Hecate is as good of a explanation as a buildup of pressure causes a volcano… understanding Hecate’s language of spells is as good as a principled theorom, framing axiomatic laws of nature.

A very good short paper to read would be Katerina Ierodiakonou’s “The Greek Concept of Sympatheia and Its Byzantine Appropriation in Michael Psellos”.

I’m going to check inline to see if it’s floating around somewhere, but you’ll find half the forum continues in that classic divide, while asserting modern concepts. In PE, it’s completely unadulterated, we all learned it was necessary to push past that point, and take the either or approach to physics. We can presume PE can’t, as much as the ‘why’ of it is interesting, the ‘what is’ of it says a lot about the choices we make in how we accept the world. Is there really such a thing as “being” if we know there is a inherent dichotomy to it that we had to make a a priority choice in? Were kinda fucked as far as existentialism is concerned if being has prerogatives that are nonsensical when viewed undivided as PE sees stuff. We know instantly it’s wrong, yet it has a kind of logic to it, it’s limited yet all over the place, rational and yet irrational.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashtavakra_Gita

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That is a commentary on the paper, doesn’t touch on the Platonist/Peoplatonist divide against the Stoics much at all, but I think the people here can trace it down.

Aristotle had a Eternal view on Time, the world being eternal, what will be is what was.

There is a lot if wiggle room and silliness possible if the hemispheres aren’t in dialectic communication. PE’s two hemispheres do communicate… he can use images, he can compare congruent patterns and shapes (he noted the Phygian caps could be a Ying Yang sign), but obviously can’t do full linkage between the two,.and it doesn’t occur to him he is bizarre in his thinking… but there was a era where he could of passed himself as a Magi… in fact, it’s likely the reason he uses this kind of thinking… he isn’t able to thrive elsewhere, modern society offers him few outlets. Christianity, under modern skepticism, did a lot to bulldoze it starting with Hippolytus, who actively investigated every such street philosophy. General ignorance, and disease was rife in Rome’s underclass on the street, but a mental disorder isn’t necessarily going to kill you, or stop you from being inquisitive or trying to teach… but other philosophies before and after contributed to our none acceptance of PE’s thought. We all know at a glance (even Maia), that he was wrong. But we don’t all seem to agree, given our philosophical positions elsewhere.

Phonetic Ethics
Awesome maths! I cannot understand how all that can work, letters to numbers etc, but that it does work so well together is a kind of poetry, magic almost. Well, magic in the sense that you can think like that, I don’t regard any deities as anything more than voodoo dolls of your mind.

Next step, do that with fractals or some pattern? I think a grid like basis is more viable for an infinite universe than shapes and volumes, and that will involve patterns. I could envision a 3D cubic grid, but I don’t see how one can jump to such a rigid structure with such finite cardinality.

Well, once you learn that Nikola Tesla was right when he said “Think in terms of energy, frequencies and vibrations”, you will understand why Da Vinci said “Learn how to see. Everything is connected” and also said “There are three types of people in this world. Those who see. Those who cannot see until they are shown. Those who do not see.”. Every color of the rainbow is mathematically obeying a frequency range, for an example 432 HZ = Green, and 432 is a Universal Frequency, and the A Note in music theory. So the words we are speaking are sounds, and language is a coherent manifestation of sound, so every word we speak is subconsciously manifesting out of mathematical notches by 6’s, because 6 x 6 x 6 = 216, and 216 is the Diameter of the Moon when multiplied by 10, in a 10-Based universe that is also Binary when it comes to 1’s & 0’s. 216, again, is the A Note in music theory. The English language is not being used to decode the elite’s language of Masons because it’s English, no. We use English to call out the elite species that controls our world because English is used by the three powers that control our entire planet along with Israel as the head beast, U.S has an obelisk in front of their building which is a worshiping of the Sun Gods, they speak English; Vatican, Rome has an obelisk in front of their building which is worshiping of the Sun Gods, they speak fairly good English; England, Europe has an obelisk in front of their building which is a worshiping of the Sun Gods (statue of liberty that originally came from France is a Sun God named Abaddon, and CERN built their hadron collider on top of land that once had a temple standing on it which worshiped Abaddon, the Sun God), so I use English because it’s used by the Elite, and the Elite speaks in mathematical codes which is why Rome was founded in 753 April 21 B.C. That is 753 x 4 x 21 = 63252, or 252 / 63 = 63636363 (Perfect Elite Order). I am using their mathematical schemes to trace them, so I can call them out and warn the people that we are not alone and are being manipulated by the embodiment of an evil side to math because these higher beings are the embodiment of the mathematical intelligence that was interwoven with the fabric of time, light and love together as a Trinity, known as a Holy Mother, a Fathe r of Death, and a Son that has both the powers of His mother, and the powers of His father, whom is born a virgin on December 25th from immaculate conception throughout many, many different stories, with different names, talking about the same exact Trinity that holds together everything via the Circle, the mother; the Square, the father and the Triangle, the Son; The All-Seeing Eye, which is why the eye on the U.S dollar bill is surrounded by light. “They” are returning and they are limited to mathematical languages.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGEEepuzndI

The universe could be a donut. In the middle is a giant black hole that warps light, creating the illusion that it is not a donut.
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Now, this is not very scientific, because all light coming from the right of the sun would appear to be a bit slower. Donut theory is not one of my better theories.

It’s a good try anyway. Steady state and oscillating universe models have their problems… problems that the big bang model doesn’t have. But it has its own set of problems that the other two dont. It’s pretty fucked up. It’s like the more we know, the crazier it gets, you know? Like what IS the deal with the universe?

Actually, Jesus was born in spring, and they retrofitted a pagan holiday and turned it into Christmas on December 25th. But whatever fits your theories.

I could argue that they got no evidence of Expanding Universe, for all we know the speed of light could just be slowing. Im probably wrong though.

Aren’t most babies born a virgin? Unless their mom’s vagina counts as intercourse.

What does that have to do with oscillating doughnut theory? Your jumping around. What we need is a GUT. James has given us AO as a metaphysics, Jakob and the clan of hooded philosophers teach the ontology of VO, while the KT school focuses on ethics. A veritable university, but it lacks an epistemophysical school, what would create a grand unified theory of the universe.

Thought AO was GUT. Something was a bubbling nothing. The universe is random chaos that had an infinite amount of time to happen to become ordered in such a way that we are conscious, and only because we are conscious is the universe ordered, because most of the time it is a bubbling mess.

That was the most anthropic thing I have ever heard you say. I bet you’re one of those hhhhwhack job panpsychists, arncha?

[ hank hill/mr. Anderson laugh ]