Hello Everyone,
Let’s talk about forgiveness…
To jump start us:
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20547442-2703,00.html
What are your thoughts on forgiveness?
-Thirst
I got the call today, I didnt wanna hear
But I knew that it would come
An old, true friend of ours was talkin on the phone
She said youd found someone
And I thought of all the bad luck,
And the struggles we went through
And how I lost me and you lost you
What are these voices outside loves open door
Make us throw off our contentment
And beg for something more?
Im learning to live without you now
But I miss you sometimes
The more I know, the less I understand
All the things I thought I knew, Im learning again
Ive been tryin to get down
To the heart of the matter
But my will gets weak
And my thoughts seem to scatter
But I think its about forgiveness
Forgiveness
Even if, even if you dont love me anymore
These times are so uncertain
Theres a yearning undefined
And people filled with rage
We all need a little tenderness
How can love survive in such a graceless age?
The trust and self-assurance that lead to happiness
Theyre the very things - we kill I guess
Pride and competition
Cannot fill these empty arms
And the work I put between us
You know it doesnt keep me warm
Im learning to live without you now
But I miss you, baby
And the more I know, the less I understand
All the things I thought Id figured out
I have to learn again
Ive been trying to get down
To the heart of the matter
But everything changes
And my friends seem to scatter
But I think its about forgiveness
Forgiveness
Even if, even if you dont love me anymore
There are people in your life whove come and gone
They let you down you know they hurt your pride
You better put it all behind you baby; life goes on
You keep carryin that anger; itll eat you up inside, baby
Ive been trying to get down
To the heart of the matter
But my will gets weak
And my thought seem to scatter
But I think its about forgiveness
Forgiveness
Even if, even if you dont love me
Ive been tryin to get down
To the heart of the matter
Because the flesh will get weak
And the ashes will scatter
So Im thinkin about forgiveness
Forgiveness
Even if, even if you dont love me
Forgiveness
Forgiveness - baby
Forgiveness
Forgiveness
Forgiveness
Forgiveness
Even if, you dont love me anymore
I think forgiveness is as much for oneself as it is for the other person…
“deep in thought I forgive everyone” Thirty-three by Smashing Pumpkins.
-Thirst
If I had no morality, I would never forgive, because I would never hatefully judge.
The pain of hate is the security blanket of the man which could not undo his enemy, and at the same time expected his enemy to somehow be undone.
Jesus Christ said that if we forgive others, God will forgive us, and the Bible teaches that every human has sinned and needs to be forgiven by God. So if someone does wrong against us, and then repents, we should forgive that person.
Oh man… The bible. Careful with that.
Is it wrong to forgive because we hope to be forgiven?
-Thirst
If anything I think that is what makes us human, Thirst. We understand our finite capabilities, our flaws, and our miscues. And for one to forgive I believe it is nothing more than accepting the very essence of our humanity; imperfection.
As far as the article that is something that made me just proud. In my Ethics class we read a story called “The Sunflower” By Simon Wiesenthal and essentially it was about a Jewish Concentration Camp victim who is brought in to listen to a dying SS man’s story. It is the true testament of forgiving, and acceptance. I highly recommend reading it and then reading the passages written by people such as the Dalai Lama and several other emminant backgrounds.