Free Government

Yea. The ISS is artficial and has nothing to do with the universe as the natural environment, because it has its own artificial environment.

Of course, the human culture is unnatural. Humans have created their culture. The human culture is, Arminius has pointed it out, like "the island in the ocean“, and the ocean is not like the island. The “island” culture resists the “ocean” nature as long as possible. So do humans.

Not always and not necessarily. It can, but doesn’t have to restrict freedom. Freedom for the one is unfreedom for the other one. Governments can make laws for both freedom and unfreedom. It depends on whom they obey.

Anarchy is anti-government. Liberalism (pro-freedom) isn’t always and necessarily anti-government. Laws can be made for freedom and can be made for anti-freedom.

Exactly.

And this “island” (=> culture) can be so isolated that it is just deadly to connect with the “ocean” (=> nature). Think of the astronauts, the ISS and other “islands”.

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Yes.

Liberalism may be a precursor for anarchy, but it is not identical with it. Liberalism can even have many rules. Socialism can have merely few rules. It is just a stereotype to say that “liberalism is always against laws and socialism is always for laws”, although this stereotype is often correct, but just not always.

Total misdirection and a red herring. You may as well be complaining about a spelling error.

Claim: Warren Buffett rose to the top by natural selection in an artificial environment.
Rebuttal: He is not on top.

Like really? That is your rebuttal? :open_mouth:

Does everyone here seize upon trivialities to win debates? :confusion-shrug:

I pointed out a false equivocation and your defense is a lack of question mark? :open_mouth:

After this series of displays, I don’t see a reason to.

  1. You have no proof.
  2. My definitions do not depend on proof. I conjured them into existence.

So even if you did manage to comb through history and find an example of so-called “communism” that wasn’t real communism as some sort of proof, it wouldn’t mean poop. That leaves you sticking your fingers in your ears screaming “you’re wrong”. So =;

Did you come into this universe or did you come out of it?

If you came into it, from where did you come?

If you came out of it, how are you not natural?

Same questions to you:

Did you come into this universe or did you come out of it?

If you came into it, from where did you come?

If you came out of it, how are you not natural?

You were the first one who mentioned that name here in this thread ( viewtopic.php?f=3&t=193246&p=2678184#p2678143 ).

Also, you have no proof at all for your statement. Mentioning Forbes is no proof.

My defense? I have posted a lot of posts here. And your problem is that I have mentioned the lack of a question mark?

You pointed out nothing. You were talking about questions that were no questions at all.

If you do not want any discussion in this thread, then just post in another thread. You are always circumventing important statements of other posters and focussing on irrelevances.

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You don’t see a reason to not have read my posts? What is your first language?

You said: “Communism - gov controls 100% of means of production and keeps 100% of profits” ( viewtopic.php?f=3&t=193246&start=50#p2678274 ).
You said: “Fascism - gov controls 100% of means of production and keeps <100% of profits” ( viewtopic.php?f=3&t=193246&start=50#p2678274 ).
You said: “Socialism - gov controls <100% of means of production and keeps <100% of profits” ( viewtopic.php?f=3&t=193246&start=50#p2678274 ).
You said: “Capitalism - gov controls 0% of means of production and keeps 0% of profits” ( viewtopic.php?f=3&t=193246&start=50#p2678274 ).

You really said that ( viewtopic.php?f=3&t=193246&start=50#p2678274 ). And that is 100% nonsense!

You are the one who has absolutely no proof and absolutely no idea.

China’s current government as a communistic government does not control 100% of means of production and not keep 100% of profits.
The fascistic governments did not control 100% of means of production and not keep <100% of profits.
The socialistic governments did and do not control 100% of means of production and not keep <100% of profits.
The capitalistic governments do not control 0% of means of production and not keep 0% of profits.

If there is an universe, there can, but doesn’t have to be a planet too.
If there is an ocean, there can, but doesn’t have to be an island too.

Smaller systems have their own rules. Not all, but most of this rules are subordinated to the larger system. The not subordinated rules of the smaller system temporarily circumvent, resist, contradict the rules of its superordinated larger system. That’s evident and can be observed almost everywhere.