# Free - Will

**URL:** https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/free-will/80991
**Category:** Philosophy
**Created:** [February 21, 2025, 10:26am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/free-will/80991 "2025-02-21T10:26:32Z")
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### Author: ![Ichthus77](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/user_avatar/www.ilovephilosophy.com/ichthus77/32/446_2.png) [@Ichthus77](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Ichthus77)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2025, 12:11pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/free-will/80991/17 "2025-02-21T12:11:42Z")

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Why are we rehashing?

> [@Thinking a lot about free will](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/thinking-a-lot-about-free-will/80768/5):
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> To further clarify along the same lines as Hum…
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> Is it a) libertarian freedom and b) hard determinism we are saying are incompatible [because… a) they are, and b) they don’t exist]?
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> Or are we talking about a) self-determination within given conditions, subsumed within b) God’s sovereignty (permissive/concurring will)? These _are_ compatible.

(If libertarian free will JUST IS self-determination, and not random & totally bizarre & unexplainable… then my saying it doesn’t exist is false.)

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