My old boss in San Francisco was legally married. It wasn’t the end of the world for me, and I accepted it as such… he was also a Roman Catholic that went to church every sunday… I didn’t go to church every Sunday.
Being gay in and of itself in isolation is about as much of a nuisance as someone who breaks other rules more out of compulsion than because they want to, as far as I am concerned. Say your a kleptomaniac… yes, it’s wrong to steal, but if you got a real condition, than it’s understandable… try to wittle it down to something like stealing individual grapes off the stem in the grocery store, or going into the DMV to take pens.
Homosexuality is obviously a no-no in the judeo-christian tradition… however, it also needs to be noted that the Jews from day one had a long association with the city of Sodom, and openly traded with them, and had in general good relations. They were not individually less than human, however, the culture did causes some obvious ethical issues in relationship to man’s relationship creation- it was antithetical to anything resembling man’s purpose, it’s was purely hedonistic, and didn’t contribute positively to survival and continuation.
We can see the negative impact in San Francisco of this culture- it’s one of the worst segregated communities in the country- the wealthy middle class- with it’s strong gay core and isolated aesthetics that effectively shut out and prey on the poor vs the outlying regions, that’s largely ethnic, kept down and repressed. The wealth is pouring into a portion of the population that DOESN’T REPRODUCE… they die, and the money doesn’t go to their children, because they had none. It’s a culture of hedonistic sterility, and the ‘poor’ who do produce children are left to fend for themselves, hoping for momma socialism, promised by the gay caste, to save them.
As a result, there is a massive homeless population- a huge portion of which is absorbed in a drug culture that exists paralell to the drug culture of the gay caste, but still separate. They don’t rub shoulders, they just glare at one another. Alot of violence and crime, and a underground slave culture of illegal migrants stuck in the metropolitian area due to the favorable laws increasingly encroaching on the legal citizen workers in that area.
The population is kept suppressed, deluded, and increasingly more and more dysfunctional. And in exchange, we get Care Bear Rainbow Hugs and propaganda based good will. It’s largely bullshit.
Most people, including Christians, understand the hurdles for gay couples, and it’s why we went along with the Civil Unions acts… which allows stuff, like long term, committed gay couples being able to visit one another in hospitals and being the obvious legal authority for questions involving their mate’s wishes when they are incapacitated or dead- however, right now, because of all the negative propaganda comming from it, marriage in and of itself is under significant threat- getting married isn’t a issue about love- you can love in a marriage, as well as outside of a marriage, and even have a loveless marriage. Marriage is a legal cohersion via the courts meant to keep breeding couples together for the sake of the child and the community. Most of our complex marriage laws in family court deal with this. It’s been deteriorating like a ‘mother fucker’ to borrow a phrase from the gay movement of the 60s… and now we have a huge population of welfare single mothers and estranged, broken, and beaten down fathers who are left essentially impoverished all on the basis of the PLEASURE PRINCIPLE being held as the unifying basis of marriage, and not the need of a Man and a Woman to stick it out.
Honestly… in a country where all are expected to be judged equally under a law, should a marriage court judge fight to get a man and a woman wedded together to stick it out, going to marriage counseling, for the sake of the children over a silly stupid disagreement, so their estate isn’t torn to shreds and the children aren’t impoverished later on when they are set to inherit their parents estates… and in the case of a Man-Man marriage just say ‘okay, since you don’t love one another, so be it, union split’.
That makes no damn sense, but it doesn’t make any sense to keep Larry and Bob in a marriage either if they don’t like one another. It’s a sterile relationship- no children, it’s union is built and destroyed on the fluctuation of emotions, and there isn’t any real solid bond- such as a child they both produced, to keep them together.
Therefor- gays don’t get married. They can have civil unions.
I would also like to point out we have this thing known as a Common Law Marriage, where a man living with a woman without being married becomes a legally obligated husband in the courts, especially if children are involved, so if he kicks her out, she has rights, as her estate and livelihood i tied up in his… many women were becoming homeless mothers in the past, unable to support themselves when their sugar daddy got bored with them. It’s not really enforced if there are no children… though it can be in situations. It makes little sense to do this to two men or two women however… they both are expected to be of equal earning capacity, as one isn’t at home watching the kids.
Obviously, exceptions can be made in the future. Say… two guys have a test tube baby together, grown in a pod… then it’s a situation, though not recommended to occur, would likely necessitate marriage for them… even when they decide one day out of the blue ‘I don’t love you’.
It’s not the case we don’t recognize you can love one another with equal passion as a heterosexual partner- we’ve always have known that, even in the dark ages. Marriage isn’t a pact of coming together out of love, it’s a pact that you’re going to stick together even when you fall out of it. It makes little sense to keep a gay couple together when they fall out of love, but it still makes sense in many cases when a heterosexual couple with children do. The offspring is the fabric of our civilization, and we don’t want the children growing up to be feral children dancing in the streets of the hood with no parental oversight because mommy or naddy isn’t there to watch the kid. Such kids grow up oftentimes to be criminals, and they don’t comprehend why they got the short stick in life. It’s because mommy and daddy didn’t grasp marriage, and didn’t try to stick it though for the sake of the children. This is a situation possible because the society liberalized the marriage laws.
If gays are married, they have to be treated as equals in marriage. It means heterosexuals can’t get married… we’ll have to craft a new category of union causing them to be enforced under law to keep together despite the silliness of their claims.
Does this mean I am opposed to divorce? No… but falling out of love isn’t a excuse for it if you have children. Areas of grey abound here, and exceptions can be made… that’s for the courts to do. The broad principles of marriage is for the sake of the continuation of society via children. Gays don’t make children, they make Pugs and other little dogs, and dress them up like children, and I don’t give much of a hoot for the continuation of the generational longevity of pugs, or miniature french bulldogs, and the other surrogate childrens of the gay community in relationship to human children.
You can be gay, you can love- in my state, you can work. It’s okay. However, don’t expect much acceptance of a purely gay culture as equal- it’s not- we’re biased to the culture of the heterosexuals, because they make the next generation. They are the baby makers, and it’s only natural we give them the advantages to properly raise sane, nurished children who are not hoodlums. It’s very true, Heterosexual families come first over Gay Culture… it should be common sense as that is what is going to ensure future gay children can be born- if we put our emphasis on a culture of sterility, it would be like the movie ‘Children of Men’ where no one is reproducing anymore, and there are no more children. They gays need us to make the next generation, back us a little here, and quit trying to tear society down. It’s not helping anyone, it’s making things worst.
Hand pick your flowers at the florist. Walk your dogs. Enjoy the company of your homosexual friends… but know the emphasis of society can never be centered around homosexuality- it’s going to be centered around the struggle of making the next generation- which is a heterosexual affair- but even then, yes, you can be a subsidiary effector in a positive sense to the overall system. This means, understanding the psychology of married couples, and keeping them together long enough for their children to reach maturity without becoming wacked out. I assure you, some of them will come join your camp once they are grown up. If you make a effort to look out for the young ones, we’ll look out for you. This means, stop the assault of marriage. Encourage your straight friends to work harder in their marriage. Don’t get that cute guy you know who has a new wife and a child to stray from his wife for a affair with you- encourage him to support his wife, and that child. There are plenty of guys willing to take it in the ass, it doesn’t have to be him (I’ve seen that happen, it’s sickening, poor wife stayed at home raising the kid).
The Gay Marriage movement is deeply destructive to marriage. You already have the equivalent. You can make efforts to stopping the cycle of violence. The philosophy of the human race shouldn’t be focused on making the gays feel mushy and self-actualized socially via recognition, anymore than it should for straights when they get married. The philosophy should be focused on making sane, healthy, and potentially productive babies themselves… even when the parents fall out of love and otherwise turn to shit.
So much of marriage court deal with this. There is a strong, underlining element of cohesion inherent in marriage. It’s why it’s a community thing. It’s only on the surface a aspect of declaration- the reason for the declaration- historical and real, was to allow everyone to note it, and enforce it. Society evolved around it, and survived via it. A childless couple isn’t that big of a issue to society, be it gay or straight. If you fall out of love in a childless marriage, then so be it… go your separate ways, it wasn’t really a marriage in the first place- not the kind society needs to continue itself.
The cycle of destruction has to end. The gay movement has done much to destroy the stability of the family. Are they alone at fault? No… but they have been a dominant focal point in the destruction for quite some time. It’s time to stop.
(as a side note, the general greater acceptance of lesbians over gay men largely stems from gay women being able to reproduce via sperm donors, hence still players in reproductions, and therefor nearly equal stakeholders. The issue arises, if the non-biological parent backs out, do we have a real basis for keeping her in a marriage if she never actually involved herself genetically in producing the child, lesbians for this reason have a little bit more wiggle room than gay men, as they can still make new people who will grow to partake in society. Two gays guys are are a significant disadvantage, one most won’t realistically overcome in the reproduction department no matter how much Bob tries to impregnate Larry.)
