Germany Wants To Create Terror States in the Pacific

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This is a very bad idea, it used to be a humane act to take in refugees, but there is always a substantial risk that not only will they stay, but far worst, succeed in forming their own state. Liberal ideology allows for this insanity.

If the Syrians start protesting and push the guards out, Australia lacks a airborne force capable of doing night jumps (cite me for that fact) and a limited navy… they and the local population would be held at gunpoint, with whatever the guards left behind and whatever they can make, to deny reentry. It would be very easy for them to form a plebiscite and declare a majority independence. Many crackhead liberals, high as a kite, will go cross eyed and say yes.

Once they have independence, they can ally with any terror state they want, or China, have large military ports established, the abikity to issue passports and citizenship…

States in our era are no longer the sole soverign power over their territory. It isnt like during the American Civil War where succession was fought against to the death… Both France and especially the British Empire committed voluntary suicide, to the point that small local regional units of the UK, trying to claim they are “nations” are attempting periodically to succeed. Of course, they aren’t, little more that what we would call in America a state, a historical fiction… but thats the climate we live in, ideologically. All it would take is one intafada in a processing center, and the island and it’s inhabitants like in a terror state, cheered on by Chomsky and Zizek as the licals and guards are beheaded.

We need to shhot down and sink any German aircraft or ships trying to move Merkle’s problem to the Pacific. We don’t need this problem in this part of the world.

You are free to keep them at a abandoned whaling station in Antartica. They can behead all the penguins and burn precious cloth stamped like the American or German flag, but they will regret it when it gets cold at night when they could of used it as a cover.

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NATO and the EU screwed up big time in the Balkan war and basically screwed over the gate keepers of Europe (who now have essentially had their revenge).

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No… The Iraq War in the beginning took those gatekeeper nations in… was a cornerstone of Bush’s Iraq policy, he put heavy pressure on getting the border areas of Spain, Italy, Poland and Ukraine in, with Georgia… those are our real as much as farthest candidate states for NATO.

The western half took a big socialist shit on itself for crazy, illegitimate reasons, the eastern half held out till the end, but looking at Ukraine’s early play in the Russian invasion, I seriously question whether they got anything out of their Iraq time… they should of had a few experienced divisions and commanders capable of smashing Putin… Putin’s military is a joke, mixture of Soviet elements, and more modern Humvee like vehicles (they heavily copied off our model)…

I’m not in a position to say Poland and Georgia was a complete loss. Just… you can’t look all the way back to the Balkans as the point of failure, US tried to remedy it, but Europe just fell into a commie cesspool of false despair. In the face of terrorism you don’t do that, you push harder and rout them… they are irregulars fighters, you have all the advantages as a modern state. I’m well aware of the train station attacks in Spain (Spain completely at faultc they have their own terrorists, border Morocco, should of had a active and aggressive intelligence program going to prevent that)… but even if a terror group let’s a nuke off, your state’s best interests is still in pushing hard. Makes absolutely no sense to retreat, if they see you react, they will counter react. It is always best to deny stateless entities engaged in terrorism territory, all your doing in hiding in your bases or retreating and going home is allowing them freedom to set up shop and plan more catastrophic attacks in the future.

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I have at most 30 years of living left (given genetics); what’s your realistic vision for Europe in this time.

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I think the Russian federation is going to be significantly trimmed down in size, but just prior to that produce one really awesome general, secure the trailways east to eastern Russia. Eastern Russia will become increasingly dependent upon Chinese imports, but will have less hydroponic incentives to offer to China in return, and China will push at least once towards Lake Baikal in a military strike to get it into the Russians heads not to be too uppity. Arctic trade will increase, and western Arctic Russia to Norway, where percepitation occurs, will have a population boom and agricultural revolution.

Think if NATO survives, it will eventually absorb Georgia-Armenia, minus the issues of nagorno-karabakh. We will build a canal from Azerbaijan into Georgia and Turkey, elevation locks will be a engineering obstacle, but necessary mid century to get central Asia to lean towards NATO.

If NATO goes, then Turkey certainly gets shoved out of any future alliance, it will team up with Russia and Iran, but the axis will turn silly after the Russia Black Sea Fleet turns into a few middle ships and coast guard craft. Iran will within two generations become the dominate ally when Russia starts to decline rapidly for Turkey minus NATO, with NATO, Poland most likely and US.

European ports will become completely mechanized, open boarders vs Security in 30 years will shift ideologically… we will be much more tolerant than we currently are of migrants and open access because a lot of the jobs they go after will be gone, completely computerized, like our ports are becoming (no human workers already in some ports), social media and internet tracking will much more easily predict who is leaning to what, and are capable of launching high death count attacks, and furthermore, UV scanning will be able to determine on bridges and main roadways who is carrying explosives or smuggling drugs, and our city centers will start upgrading this, causing all but the most cautious and clean terrorists to stick out like a sore thumb.

Cost of land will go down, but not because of socialism or fiat rules or population decline, but because rent will be seen as a more risky investment, after a rent bubble explodes.

I think the shipping industry will switch to fully mechanized ships, that we will have a lot of ships hanging out off shore waiting for more favorable markets… sales on non-perishables will coincide with economic spikes elsewhere… cargo owners will want to offload to buy and sell elsewhere.

In other words… you may be getting in San Francisco a hugh sneaker sale coinciding with the launch of a new iPhone… a ship off shore will want to ship those phones, but are stuffed with shoes, and markets will become saturated because there was no increased demand… selling phones in Africa or Asia causes a North American spike, depressing sales, European cargo owners cause a economic stir… a lot of silliness like that will dominate global economics.

Think we will back off steel, switch to ceramics and carbon based materials as they can be stored without rusting. Demolition business is a safe bet for a while.

Europe will start emphasizing Marines over Army, with drone air force. Mech infantry will see AI driven vehicles, still dependent on human infantry, some track/wheel support. Many countries will shift to providing expensive AI, while encouraging specialist countries to provide infantry. Before end of century, NATO and African Union will clash outside the Air Mountains. Russia will join NATO, Arab League will be very cosy to NATO and Europe, will actually have better land vehicles and optics. Nobody will give a fuck about the Persian Gulf.

When rent falls, computers can provide basic nursing functions, Finland will become more antagonistic towards Russia over it’s lost lands. Won’t result in a invasion, but they will start heavily leaning towards NATO.

Oh… Russia will hack Foxconn here in the next 15 years. I fully expect Russia to be ahead on automation by 2065, but it will be in pointless areas, like to shore up for a lack of workers and increase industrial output. A lot of countries will be fast after them doing similar, some African, south American, Asian… not just western countries, but Russia will try to create a AI proletariat in a era when that shit doesn’t matter anymore. It’s about services, like healthcare, not industry.

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Look man, all I’m saying is muslims ban art and chess. All Im saying is life sucks as it is, I dont want to reincarnate into a life of no art and chess.

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No, Muslims have their own chess varients, and art too. Even in Saudi Arabia.

I don’t know nor care what ISIS stance is on board games, but certain they have art.

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The art kinda sucks though. No people for a start, strictly anyway. Tiling and abstract design in general doubleplus good. But there’s only so many tiles you can look at before you just wanna look at something with a face.

Chess is around, but not as popular as backgammon.

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The movements of people generally are set to vastly expand in the near future. Notions of rigid nationhood will become increasingly ridiculous.

Anyone with a flying car, is going to go virtually where they want ~ just like they do now with helicopters. The numbers will grow, transportation and speed will increase, distances shorten ~ the world is going to get smaller. Once humanity can make proper utility of the 3D space of the sky, there will be different digital stratospheres e.g. one layer for northbound and a few hundred feet above it southern bound routes, then above those would be increasingly faster routes. people will be getting places quick some even living in the sky [airships, air islands etc].

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This is the sort of narrative that actually corresponds to real history. Very well phrased.

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Visiting Belgrade (hotel 200m from the park below) at the time of the peak refugee intake, I could not help but think the local politicians delighted in allowing refugees to flow on to Germany as Serbia has nothing to offer them economically.
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ISIS is big into video photography and photoshop. I’m not impressed with the results, but it qualifies as art.

Of Germany wants people that bad, they could just open up immigration to the US and Canada, Japan, Australia, etc… a lot of idiots who aren’t backwards or suicide bombers would flood in from western nations.

I don’t understand this addiction to having the most uneducated or backwards and impoverished people flood in, unless they are all working for less than half pay off the books, like what the liberals do with Mexicans in the US.

If the US was desperate for population, we would be much more open to the exact opposite choices the EU seems into. I would prefer a select influx from Asia, South America and parts of Africa (not the war areas) and Europe over what Europe seems to attract.

I wouldn’t let a Eritrean in save for asylum cases but woukd be okay with a South African or someone form the Ivory Coast, because we need a stable expatriot community here for trade. Banks, language, churches, culture, ties to the home country that investors and businessmen in those counties would understand. We don’t need a flood of Nigerians or Chinese though, we already have both, anymore than we need more Germans or British. Some continued movement, but not large. We could use more indians, more indonesians, more brazilians, more turks.

We could attract mainland europeans as easily as Germany could attract Americans.

Instead, all we get are midget guatamaleans, and that cultural tie isn’t exactly prosperous. I don’t care how dense the population gets down there, it is going to be a shit poor market for the next 50 years.They don’t exactly add anything worthwhile to the country’s intelligence or ability to trade. I see nothing really impressive about them as a people, that qualifies taking in such a large quantity of them. I rather have the same number from Chile or Spain to be honest, instead of them at this rate of intake.

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I’m guessing I’m the only one who ever seen their gay videos.

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Not ISIS u fuckin idiot, the Saudi gov wants to ban it. Art is against their religion lol

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Saudi has art too. Lots of it actually, and chess too, the Fatwa isn’t binding on the public, just the imam who issued the fatwa. If you understood how Fatwas worked, you would know they aren’t the same as law, but opinion on law, and oftentimes contradict and can be disregarded by reason. Snowmen are banned, for example by Fatwa in Saudi Arabia, but when it snows (and yes, sometimes it does) you’ll see them making snowmen. Why? That Fatwa doesn’t count for shit, and no police officer is getting out of his car to arrest a snowman builder, not only is it cold, but the judge would instantly dismiss the case and call the arresting officer a idiot. A Fatwa is just a learned religious opinion, if I converted to Islam and became a Imam I could pull them out of my ass rapid fire, saying the Smurfs are against Islam, but Heman stands in full accord because of reason X… nobidy is changing middle eastern television programming just cause Imam Smee says to do so, just means I, the Imam, can’t watch the Smufs anymore.

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Had a Muslim dude say it wasn’t no Imam, but the Holy text itself saying to ban art.

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Well, you have me knowing better telling you otherwise.

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I definitely haven’t seen any gay videos from ISIS.

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I was overwhelmed by the ingenuity they had of making guys go through monkey bars… cause you know monkey bars are encountered so ducking often in combat situations.

Their battle drills for squad movements equally insightful… half take a knee and shoot suppressive fire while the other half walks forward! No need to lay in the prone… they would get dirty… no need for the others to duck and roll to throw the opposition off, just walk forward like a bunch of retarded zombies and get picked off.

They essentially were trained in human wave tactics.

Shit… their special forces video is even more gay, they run around in most of the video without shoes. Their retarded water commandos trained to leap out of the water with only a knife in front of a armed sentry, in front of them… infront of them! Taking on a guy with a guy from a height position, from below with just a knife. No breathing equipment, not even a cartoonish attempt to have a breathing Reed, or water goggles, just stay under water in absolute stealth for as long as it takes, breathing like a fish, no shoes, no gun, just a fucking knife.

I gotta find that video, brb.