did N mean a)jesus was murdered b)society has no need for religion(self government) c)ethical philosophy is groundless d)all 3 e)none
just wondering if i read too much or too little into Nietche’s Beyon Good & Evil
i was told once that i should read some of his other works before re-reading.
He means science, society, etc has rendered him useless and so effectively dead. Nietsche is just being his usual, poetic, hyperbolic self.
Today “God” tends to be a rather empty concept. It lacks depth, and appears to consist mostly of faith and tradition, that’s not real meaning [imo]…
Nietzsche and Lou Salome, somewhere in Tautenburg. Lou, in a faint voice:
“Whose book is this ?”
“It’s a Bible, baby.”
“Whose Bible is this ?”
“God’s.”
“Who’s God ?”
“God’s dead, baby… God’s dead…”
In the music.
Well, it all depends on what you think death is.
What if death is God.
When we die we become one with death or God.
Then this beckons the question: What is God?
God is dead, though. So there is no possible way to know the answer to that question because we can’t possibly know anything that is ‘dead’. It is beyond knowledge itself.
God is dead.
God is beyond knowledge.
If God is death then death is also beyond knowledge.
Death and God consists of everything other than knowledge.
Thats why I usually state that life is the act of knowing.
Side note
… And unfortunately God will always be beyond knowledge.
The only way I see us getting close to ‘God’ is developing some technique other than knowledge. We would have to somehow ‘die’ to a certain degree. Obviously knowledge isn’t getting us very far in the God department.
if death(from the human perspective) is the end of all physical experiance, or in general the end of existance, how can we ever know anything without physical experiance? specific knowledge about god is impossible for humans as we can only come to know what we can experiance.
Hahahah, it makes perfect sense now.
To fully manifest the knowledge of God, stop thinking!
“Why is the sky blue?”
Thus your own farts are of higher use to you then the unknowable God.
“God” is like a theoretical other universe that we can’t get to.
“God” is a useless idea that nobody can ever stop obsessing over, IMO.
farts are of more use to me than trying to prove god exists, yes. are they of more use than God? i don’t know any facts about god so i’m not sure how useful god is. I am a catholic and believe in god, but that can only help me when i die. so in my life farts help me more. ( i have no need of a conception of god to help me in my life because i don’t have a need for moral support, i’m responsible for myself and whether or not god made me is for the atheists to find out.
Trevor, if you want to save your soul somehow, I think that there are more precautions then just faith in the existence of some huge Jew. 
Maybe Karma & Enlightenment would help also?
Or regular practice/training of psionics?
the concept of a soul is the mystics/religious concept of mind. aka the driving force behind human action.
How do you make your mind/soul stronger?
Learn.
Which is done by interaction with the physical world, which is only possible through the sensory organs.
Learn, Which is done with perception/conception. The sensory organs allow us to percieve and the faculty of conception/language/reason allow us to think. I’m not saying that sensory organs are the only way we can learn, just that they are the only way we can attain information/experiance. If i was to have a severe head trauma and damage my brain i might be able to percieve but not concieve properly. looking at something but not understanding what it is or what it does.
it really depends on the location of the trauma.
I’ve always understood the ‘death of God’ as a hyperbolic antonym of ‘the birth of man’. That is, it stands to signify, opposed to being a dark and tragic event, and one associated with madness as it is portrayed in The Gay Science, a moment of great intellectual liberation; a sort of ‘anthropological awakening’ steering humanity (or at least Nietzsche himself) toward a naturalized interpretation of reality, contrary to the ‘human, all-too-human’ theological and metaphysical interpretations.
do you mean we can only have understanding of concepts which relate to human perspective and therefore the lack of objective proof of god provides us with the freedom to not care and effectively know we can’t know?
Something like that.
i only ever read Beyond Good and Evil by Nietzche, and a fraction of Thus Spake. I might not fully grasp the sublties of his other works(as i never read them)
BGE’s a reasonable starting-point, though, personally, I would’ve had you read The Gay Science first. I would also have you avoid Zarathustra for a while. Just my opinion, though.