God is unimaginable

God being the generator of space, is beyond space and therefore, can never be imagined

The unimaginable God is beyond the four-dimensional model of space and time. You can imagine the dissolution of matter converting into energy filling the space. Subsequently you can imagine the disappearance of energy in the space and the result is final vacuum. But, even if you try for your lifetime, you can never imagine the disappearance of vacuum.

God being the generator of space is beyond space and therefore, can never be imagined. If you have to imagine God, the pre-requisite is the imagination of disappearance of space or vacuum. Of course space is a form of very fine energy and in this context the word energy used by Me can be taken as crude form of energy. The only knowledge about God is that He is beyond the knowledge (Yasyaamatam… Veda).

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God can be said as an item not having the existence of worldly items

(The existence of Para Brahman is not the existence of non-God items in which the knowledge of the non-God items is a prerequisite condition. Para Brahman exists as per the statement of Veda).

All the non-God items are worldly objects, which are parts of creation. All these items are known first and then only their existence is mentioned. When you say that a pot exists, it means that you are stating the existence since you know the pot already. Hence, the existence of any worldly item requires the knowledge of that item already.  If you do not know anything about an item, you will not say that it exists.  Hence, the existence always requires the prior knowledge of the item.  But God is beyond world and is unimaginable since God is not known.  Hence, the existence of God is not similar to the existence of the worldly items.  Since the existence of worldly items, which requires prior knowledge of the item, is absent in the case of God, God can be said as an item not having the existence of worldly items and hence God is non-existent (Asat) in this sense.  This does not mean that God is really non-existent because God really exists as per Veda (Astityeva….) and hence God exists (Sat).

God is Truth, which includes the imaginable and the unimaginable (yet).

The reason for God being unimaginable

(God is unimaginable because God, the generator of space, is beyond the space. The intelligence can never go beyond the space).

Veda says that God is the cause of space (Atmaana Aakaashah….). Cause can be seen in its original form, only when its effect is destroyed.  The lump of mud can be visualized only when the pot is destroyed.  Hence, to understand the original God, the space must be destroyed.  When the space is destroyed and does not exist, the situation is unimaginable, in spite of your intensive imagination even for hundred years.  Since, your intelligence cannot cross the space, God, who is beyond space can never be imagined by human intelligence.  This is the reason for God being unimaginable.

God is unimaginable but his force is not
“For we walk by faith, not by sight.’ II Corinthians 5:7”

God has no beginning and no end because God is unimaginable. The beginning and the end must be also unimaginable for an unimaginable item. The beginning and the end of the cosmic energy or space or the creation are also unimaginable. Therefore, the beginning and the end are unimaginable for the unimaginable item like God and also for the imaginable item like space. Therefore, the two points, which are the beginning-less and end-less characteristics cannot help you in understanding the real nature of God. If you start recognizing the God by simply these two points (beginning-less and end-less), you may think that God is an imaginable item like the space or energy or the creation. In fact based on these two characteristics people have imagined God as an imaginable item like space or energy or creation. This concept has misled people to such a low level that people think that God is the very infinite space or infinite energy or infinite creation. Therefore, one should filter the concept of God at this juncture itself. One should think that God has no beginning and no end because the beginning and the end of an unimaginable item are also unimaginable.

Such God desired to create this Universe for entertainment. The very desire itself is the Creation. In view of God this present materialized universe in only an idea or imagination or the very desire itself. Therefore, the desire to create the world is itself the desire and also the created world itself is a desire. Thus the creation, maintenance and dissolution of the imaginary world are also imaginations or desires. A part of this infinite creation is the individual soul. The soul is like a drop of the infinite ocean of imagination or desire of God. Thus, quantitatively the entire ocean of imagination of God is very huge compared to the tiny soul. Remember that both the Universe and the tiny soul are made of the same substance called as imagination or desire. Thus the force of the Universe is far greater than the force of the soul. Due to such huge quantitative difference of the same phase, the Universe, which is far stronger than the soul appears as a materialized entity for the soul. But this infinite ocean of desire, which is the infinite Universe is a tiny drop compared to the infinite force of God. Therefore, again due to the same quantitative difference of force the entire universe is just the very weak imagination from the view of God. Thus imagination and materialization exist simultaneously true from the point of God and soul.

Assuming God did so…

Single defect of absence of planning, space cannot be treated as God

(But the primordial energy itself cannot plan being inert. The awareness was not there in the beginning, which resulted in the end only in the chain of creation).

As per Veda, God created space in the beginning. From space gradually the other elements came and finally from the earth plants and from plants the awareness (purusha) is produced. Hence, you cannot bring awareness to the space before it was generated. Therefore, for this single defect of absence of planning, space cannot be treated as God.

I didn’t say space should be treated as God.

I said, “Assuming God (created space).”

Since god is unimaginable, there is no way we can relate to him or understand his ways. Anyone who believes so is delusional.

Why would a person need to relate to God?

That’s like my cat wanting to relate to the president of meowmix.

But so many try. They believe they can interpret God’s will. It’s all part of the theocentricity of zealots and the need for their religion to be the correct one.

Hey, go for it if someone wants to.

I have never seen a reason that I need to try to make God into anything.
God is like the wind to me.
I can try to mold it into anything that I want, but at best I can only get some pretty and mildly controlled music as God passes by.

I can’t visualize anything outside space or time but that’s not the same a conceiving - though there is surely more out there than we can conceive.

well we cant imagine God but we can make some pretty good assumptions based on his creation of existence- one that comes to mind is that God is of love :slight_smile:

No, for this reason only God is coming in human form to give His presence to us. By this we can expereince God through the human body of the human incarnaiton.

and his force is not unimaginable because existence itself is of his force