God isn't dead just yet.

[Joker]

God is not dead as all of society is in debt to religion.

What is education beyond the approval of prophets and sight seers in judgement of how people “ought” to earn or survive as in living?

What is the state beyond the righteous hand of father god?

What is the economy beyond the collective interests of people in strong desire of salvation and eternal apathy over the presence of nature’s indifference?

What is the government and politicians beyond being the enacted
“chosen ones”?

What are social laws beyond being a new covenant or testament of achieving worldly heaven in the reward of total obedience to god the state?

What is classism beyond seperating the “pure” from the “impure”?

What is consumerism beyond the supreme ecstasy of enjoying heaven on earth by total obedience to father god the state?

What is the police beyond being the “righteous” crusaders for father god the state?

What is a hero beyond being another random martyr added upon millions who have suffered in the presence of god the state?

What are the buildings that houses our politicians and “chosen ones” beyond being mere temples that idolizes godly principles that extends from otherworlds?

What is the media beyond being a divine messenger of holy father’s divine purpose for us all?

Holy father being the state.

What is prisons and execution grounds beyond being eternal hells constructed here on earth to rid the existence of impure souls and infidels?

What is taxes beyond being mere penances and offerings to father god the state?

What is money beyond cultic incantations in gaining more public acceptance over others by god the state who acts as lord and savior?

Finally what is civility beyond a religious expression of feeling comfortable in a metaphysical existence of godliness at god the state’s disposal?

What is war beyond two rival god states fighting for absolute holy observance?

We live in a world of many gods and religions!

[size=200]God and religion truely exists![/size]

[Xanidu]

Read Beyond Good and Evil.

[realunoriginal]

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[Murex]

@realunoriginal

God will always exist.

If there’s one thing you can count on in life, it’s the power of stupidity amongst the masses.

As long as we feel a need to be conforted by imaginary things, yes.

[Provalone]

Well, the higher one climbs in society’s pyramid the more god-like and, accordingly, the less god-revering one becomes.

To me, it’s a ratio: one’s authority over others versus his servitude under others. The longer one keeps the incoming power at a positive over the outgoing obedience, the better.

Society is like one big orgy; somewhere along the lines, everybody is getting fucked by somebody else.

[Daobobo]

Are you trying to say that the State is God? Your post seems to be acting as if they are equal.

Because I hate to burst your bubble, but that seems to be an unqualified equivocation…

What makes you think that the State is God, being as God is (supposedly) an omnipotent, omnicent being who is both eternal and supremely good? Whereas the State is merely a collection of individuals who (for some reason) operate under a (somehow) defined set of rules, and some of the individuals occasionally to violate these rules?

Sure, they have some similarities… I’d say they’re both socially defined. They both lack a physical body. People tend to obey commands they feel come from either one, they tend to have a sort of authoritative power…

But the bottom line is that God is many things that the State is not.

[Timocrates]

@Daobobo

But the bottom line is that God is many things that the State is not.

Whatever God is, I want it to go away.

[Rapt0rzzz]

@Daobobo

Are you trying to say that the State is God? Your post seems to be acting as if they are equal.

Because I hate to burst your bubble, but that seems to be an unqualified equivocation…

What makes you think that the State is God, being as God is (supposedly) an omnipotent, omnicent being who is both eternal and supremely good? Whereas the State is merely a collection of individuals who (for some reason) operate under a (somehow) defined set of rules, and some of the individuals occasionally to violate these rules?

Sure, they have some similarities… I’d say they’re both socially defined. They both lack a physical body. People tend to obey commands they feel come from either one, they tend to have a sort of authoritative power…

But the bottom line is that God is many things that the State is not.

Why are you taking his post so literally? I think it’s pretty obvious that he is attempting to draw a parallel between religion and our society. He’s trying to show that society as a whole is based just like a religion. I think the similarities to an actual God are quite strong. The government is omnipotent (although supposedly based on the people’s will), It surely sees itself as all knowing, and I think most people think their society as the “good” one. It has a set of rules, just like religion and there are people that break those rules… just like people break their religions commands.

[Joker]

[b]" The manner of this lust for power has changed through the centuries, but its source is still the same volcano…

What we once did ‘for the sake of God’ we now do for the sake of money.

This is what at present gives the highest feeling of power."[/b]

Friedrich Nietzsche-

The comparing features:

The medieval position saw man as a member of a community ordained by god.

The modern position sees men prominent with wealth who are ideal citizens as ordained by the ideal economy which is the new god and idol along with the state.

[Joker]

@Luminescence

@Daobobo

But the bottom line is that God is many things that the State is not.

Whatever God is, I want it to go away.

=D>

[Joker]

@Rapt0rzzz

@Daobobo

Are you trying to say that the State is God? Your post seems to be acting as if they are equal.

Because I hate to burst your bubble, but that seems to be an unqualified equivocation…

What makes you think that the State is God, being as God is (supposedly) an omnipotent, omnicent being who is both eternal and supremely good? Whereas the State is merely a collection of individuals who (for some reason) operate under a (somehow) defined set of rules, and some of the individuals occasionally to violate these rules?

Sure, they have some similarities… I’d say they’re both socially defined. They both lack a physical body. People tend to obey commands they feel come from either one, they tend to have a sort of authoritative power…

But the bottom line is that God is many things that the State is not.

Why are you taking his post so literally? I think it’s pretty obvious that he is attempting to draw a parallel between religion and our society. He’s trying to show that society as a whole is based just like a religion. I think the similarities to an actual God are quite strong. The government is omnipotent (although supposedly based on the people’s will), It surely sees itself as all knowing, and I think most people think their society as the “good” one. It has a set of rules, just like religion and there are people that break those rules… just like people break their religions commands.

What they said.

[Joker]

As a atheist I would say that god has never existed at all but if one wants a objective presence of god one needs not look far beyond the state who has only succeeded by preying upon people’s religious faith along with preying on people’s dreams too.

[Joker]

[b]Godwin-" Government has failed in practice and principle."

Both legislation and the operation of laws work in favor of the rich, and, indeed, it is in the nature of political institutions, by giving power and privelege to individuals, " greatly to enhance the imagined excellence of wealth."[/b]

Joker- Take this quote with Nietzsche’s comparison of how money today is the new breed of idolization and religion.