God saves Chalk?

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This is a true story of something that happened just a

few years ago >at USC.

There was a professor of philosophy there who was a
deeply committed >atheist.

His primary goal for one required class was to spend
the entire >semester to prove that God couldn’t exist.

His students were always afraid to argue with him
because of his >impeccable logic.

Sure, some had argued in class at times, but no one
had ever really >gone against him because of his
reputation.

At the end of every semester on the last day, he would
say to his >class of 300 students, “If there is anyone
here who still believes in >Jesus, stand up!”

In twenty years, no one had ever stood up. They knew
what he was >going to do next. He would say, “Because
anyon e who believes in God is a >fool”.

If God existed, he could stop this piece of chalk from
hitting the >ground and breaking Such a simple task to
prove that He is God, and yet He >can’t do it."

And every year, he would drop the chalk onto the tile
floor of the >classroom and it would shatter into a
hundred pieces.

All of the students would do nothing but stop and
stare.

Most of the students thought that God couldn’t exist.
Certainly, a >number of Christians had slipped
through, but! For 20 years, they had been >too afraid
to stand up.

Well, a few years ago there was a freshman who
happened to enroll.

He was a Christian, and had heard the stories about
his
professor.

He was required to take the class for his major, and
he was afraid. >But for three months that semester, he
prayed every morning that he would >have the courage
to stand up no matter what the professor said, or
what the >class thought.

Nothing they said could ever shatter his faith…he
hoped.

Finally, the day came. ! The professor said, “If there
is anyone >here who still believes in God, sta nd up!”
The professor and the class of >300 people looked at
him, shocked, as he stood up at the back of the

classroom.

The professor shouted, "You FOOL!!!

If God existed, he would keep this piece of chalk from

breaking >when it hit the ground!"

He proceeded to drop the chalk, but as he did, it
slipped out of his >fingers, off his shirt cuff, onto
the pleat of his pants, down his leg, and >off his
shoe. As it hit the ground, it simply rolled away
unbroken.
The >professor’s jaw dropped as he stared at the
chalk. He looked up at the >young man, and then ran
out of the lecture hall.

The young man who had stood, proceeded to walk to the
front of the >room and shared his faith in Jesus for
the next half hour. 300 students >stayed and listened
as he told of God’s love for them and of His power

through Jesus.

Maybe… he just got nervous that he couldn’t give this Christian a good argument so he didn’t drop it correctly out of tenseness…

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How you misunderstand us…

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Maybe I do. And maybe I do misunderstand you because I mainly see you misunderstanding us. A good atheist will admit there are certain arguments for Christianity that are very good. He will admit that Christianity is reasonable, he will admit that while many Christians are fools because they do not study what they believe, many do.

Maybe we both always misunderstand each other because we want to have stereotypical attitudes toward such things. I’ve heard it all before, but what you hear more is the Christian saying atheists misunderstand us.

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If that is so, why post the above? To make us equal?

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What did you get that from your grandma?

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No I forgot who sent it, not sure why this matters? Can’t think of anything to reply with other than this? Rather dull…

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I suppose.

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You didn’t answer me. Why post this propaganda?

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I don’t remember you asking, sorry. I posted this because I found it rather humorous and just maybe one of you will take much time and consider learning about Christianity.

Answer my question, why are you debating me?

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Where’d you ask that?

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That was the first time, why are you debating me?

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To stop you from posting such nonsense as above?

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Nonsense? Why? If not true, show me why. Why do you care, if nonsense it’s misrepresenting, but why do you care? I haven’t been given many thoughts on why atheism is better…, so you don’t have anything to defend do you? You must show why it’s not true.

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The stuff you posted above? Because it never happened. Plus, you can’t prove a negative.

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How do you know it never happened? How can you be so sure, hmm? Isn’t there a topic on double standards?

Can’t disprove a positive either.

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That’s the point. Duh. You can’t prove that a theory isn’t true, just that it is. I don’t “know” it never happened, I assume it never happened because of the exaggerative nature of the story.

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Lol duh. Exaggerative? Isn’t this relative? Read one of my signatures from Chesterton.

Of course I can’t prove it, I only base my view on a logical, reasonable, accurate belief, that’s all I do, so don’t blame me.

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I do blame you, because the story completely misrepresents atheists, even if it is true. This guy, if he existed, is an idiot, a complete peckerwood. He is not a sample representative of the population. How would you like it if I judged your faith by Ted Haggard, Jimmy Swaggart, or this crazy lady:
youtube.com/watch?v=Q8UPXGun5zI

Watch the movie. Now, how would you feel if an atheist started going around making people believe that all Christians are like the crazy lady. I mean, how would you feel if I started e-mailing that to all my friends, posting it on this philo forum. What if I posted this story, which, by the way, is completely true:

This is a true story of something that happened just a few years ago at some church in kansas.

There was a volunteer at the church who was a deeply committed Christian lady. Her primary goal for the sunday school classes was to spend the entire year proving that god exists.

Her students were always afraid to argue with her because she was so much more in touch with god than they were. Sure, some had dissented in the class at times, but no one had really gone against her because of her reputation.

At the end of every year, right before Christmas, she would say to her class of 12 or 15 students, “If there is anyone her who doesn’t believe in Jesus yet, stand up!”

In twenty years, no one had ever stood up. They knew what she was going to do next. She would say, “Because anyone who doesn’t believe in god is a fool.”

“If god did not exist, then everybody would be evil. Everyone here, you would all be completely evil. You’d be eating each other.”

And every year, she would drop her chalk onto the carpeted floor of the room, and one of the well trained students would pick it up and give it back to her, as she was too fat to pick it up herself. And then she would say “See? That child picked up the chalk for me, an act of true altruism that would be impossible without god.”

And all of the students would do nothing but stop and stare.

Most of the students thought that God couldn’t not exist. Certainly, a number of Atheists had been slipped into the class to study Christians, but for 20 years they had been too afraid of the crazy lady to stand up.

Well, a few years ago, there was a teenager who happened to join. He was an atheist, and he had heard the stories about the crazy lady.

Well, finally the day came. The lady said "“If there is anyone here who does not yet believe in god, stand up!”

The lady and the class of ten or twelve people looked back at the atheist, who was standing at the back of the classroom.

The lady shouted “You EVIL FOOL!” and in her rage, she dropped the chalk from her hand.

Slowly, the brave young atheist walked to the front of the class, bent over, picked up the chalk, and handed it to the crazy lady. Her jaw dropped as she stared at the chalk, which had been politely placed in her palm. She looked up at the atheist and ran out of the room.

The young atheist who had stood, proceeded to walk to the front of the room and share his faith in humanist morality and the fundamental good that lies within all humans, for the next half hour. The 12 or so students stayed and listened as they were told of how they did not need god to be good people, and how they could still have a purpose without god.

See? I can write good propaganda too.

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Haha, … dude…well actually that isnt’ that funny I kinda feel bad for you now.

Um… you can call what I put propaganda, it was just a true story. You can call it misrepresentation if you like but you imply it many of your post. Most atheists, or people who claim this title will believe or say people who believe in God are fools. You know, Christianity has a role model, what’s the atheist role model? Hmm…? Dawkins? Does he think religious people are fools as well?

I’m sorry but I’m not sure where the atheist spectrum beings and ends… For Christians theres God, and then Satan.

You can pick on Jesus all you’d like, good luck with that. But most prefer to pick on those who fail, or those atheist who claim Christianity for Cash(televangelists).

Anyways… I, lol, unless you have alot of time on your hands I don’t want you to do that ever again man just to prove a point to me…ok? Was good though, took some thought. I myself am somewhat of an artist with writing, and a real artist at visuals. club29.deviantart.com – earlier works, I’m going to upgrade and use my college stuff soon.

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That sounds fake.

Also, months of prayer mean: personal effort, sending out thy Will. This is a form of magick, if strong enough, that can change the course of events, etc.

As you will find, under any unbaised documentation of remote inflauncing, a persons focused intent and energies – can change things.

There can be persons, atheists, whom focus on reducing the growth rates of bacterial cultures, etc. and it does work. Also, it does not require prayer, or “God”.

Things such as walking on water, phasing through objects, walking on fire, etc. These are possible tasks of the adempt mage or magus, whom has devouted years towards training, and also, may have had a special sort of birth.

That small thing, with the chalk, if it actually happened, is hardly a glorious act from an all mighty God, but even little, pathetic amounts of miracle are enough to strongly affirm a faith which spends its whole time trying to prove itself, instead of it being nutral about what it cannot fully prove.

To be fair, I do believe that your god and angels exist, but I do not believe they are either as good or as powerful as you do.