This guy undoubtedly supports your position on gun control:
My city just broke its record for most murders in a year. The previous record was from 1933 so thatâs really saying something. I think we have one of the highest murder rates anywhere. Weâve always had people shooting but it was mostly isolated and kept in the shitty parts of town. But theyâve become brazen and regular people are catching strays, like kids and old ladies and shit. Everyone is 3d printing glock switches and what used to be a couple of shots is now like way more, in some cases hundreds at a time. Theyâre shooting gas stations, parking lots, apartment buildings, you name it. The shit is wild.
I generally hate the police, because I grew up in a shitty area that was dramatically overpoliced. At this point, Iâd be willing to look the other way for a few months if they wanna go and shit all over the civil rights of the areas where the shooters mostly come from. Like go for it. The state legislature decided that pistol permits were apparently unconstitutional or something, so now anyone can carry without a permit, meaning that simply having a gun in your hand doesnât give cops probable cause to search you or stop you. They did this in spite of protests from the police unions.
We currently have a task force consisting of city, and state police, as well as county deputies, atf agents and US marshals that have been carrying out a crazy number of arrests. They arrested something like 25 murder suspects in 4 weeks and executed over 100 other felony warrants. Thereâs an actual gang war going on between these illiterate half witted crooks. Mow them down in front of their families for all I care. If you want to be a criminal, in general, I support you. Fuck the law. But if youâre going to be an indiscriminately violent one, I hope you die and I hope itâs soon.
Birminghamâs deadliest year, by the numbers: 151 homicides in 2024 broke 1933â˛s record - al.com
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We had a shooting in a mall near where I live a few years back on thanksgiving. Some kids got in a fight and started shooting at each other so everyone kind of ran toward the exits. This guy who was home on leave from the military or something, named Emantic Bradford, had a handgun on him and spring into action.
As he pulled out his gun and glared down from the 2nd floor to the 1st floor where the shooting had occurred, and the a cop came rushing in the door behind him, saw him there with the gun, and shot him in the back of the head.
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Regular folk better arm themselves or buy 3-D printers before itâs too late.
If theyâre not pacifists.
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I saw someone get run over by a car a month ago.
I canât believe we havenât even banned cars yet.
What kind of insane medieval reactionary and immoral society do we live in???
#CarControlSavesLives
Going to electronic vehicles will probably amount to that because they will be able to shut it off if they donât want people to drive very far.
Have you ever shot a gun at someone or had someone shoot a gun at you?
No, but thanks again for always making sure to ignore the actual conversations going on.
If you want to make it about that, ok fine. Iâll let you take my guns away if you can ensure no one will never attack me or any other innocent person, for which attack they victim(s) would have needed a gun to defend themselves. And without that gun they would otherwise have been assaulted/harmed/raped/killed.
Since you nor anyone else can guarantee safety like that, even within a context where guns are illegal (because we already know criminals donât follow the law) or in a context of âgun free zonesâ (again, criminals donât care and these areas (e.g. schools) tend to be the more common targets for violent criminals), you have no right trying to disarm average law-abiding citizens of their means of self-protection.
Now if you want to focus your energies on disarming criminals, I am all for that But something tells me thatâs not so much of a priority for you, is it?
i dont think anyone even read my post except for the head line lol
Welcome to ILP 
Ok then, let me respond to what you wrote in the OP.
- A mental health evaluation ârun by the federal governmentâ is a contradiction in terms. Even if you modify your statement to say ârun by employees of the federal governmentâ. I donât want the federal government anywher near evaluating my mental health when it comes to my basic right to own a firearm for self-protection.
Now despite that, yes we should and already do prevent firearm ownership for people who are deemed mentally ill. That is a whole other issue and is pretty nuanced. But it can be justified from multiple angles, just as it can also be abused. Objectivity is crucial here, having objective standards that are non-political and applied by people with no dog in the race. Is that usually the case? Probably not, but meh. Itâs a side issue anyway.
- You want people to pay an extra $1000+ over the price of a handgun? That seems pretty oppressive against the poor/lower class people who could barely afford to buy a $200 handgun to begin with. And if youâre trying to keep mass amounts of guns out of the hands of cartels and criminal groups, I donât think this would do anything. Those groups already have huge stacks of cash. In effect all you would be doing is allowing them to successfully launder even more dirty cash by purchasing firearms through legal means.
As for careless behaviors, that is why we SHOULD and often do (depends on the state you live in) require gun safety training before purchasing a firearm or at least before obtaining a permit to carry a firearm outside of your own home. One downside of firearms is that people are not properly trained or respectful of them,
leading to accidents. A good way to reduce such accidents is more training on gun safety. This will benefit everyone without stomping on their rights.
- âAreas where 100-500 weapons are prevalent and prone to criminal activityâ⌠like Chicago for example, and in such areas you definitely do NOT want to make it harder for the average law-abiding citizen to get a gun. They really do need it for their own self-protection.
If you want to try and get guns out of the hands of criminals, of course that is the best approach. But what you said so far would only marginally work in that direction. How about this:
If you are caught with an illegal firearm you get prison for life. NO parole
If you commit a crime with a firearm you get prison for life. NO parole
If you commit even any violent assault, gang-related crime, or sexual assault upon another person you get prison for life. NO parole
Iâd say that within 5-10 years, most of the problem of guns being in the hands of criminals will naturally solve itself. Since the biggest, by far, problem with crime and guns being used in crimes is that violent offenders are released from prison back into society. Once we fix that stupidity, much of the problems with crime, guns, gangs will work itself out.
Firing shots at your grammar.
Yeah. The silly AI here is always fucking with me. I have to constantly re-read what I wrote to find the things it changes without me noticing. Especially since it even changes words that are not mis-spelled.
that awkward moment
Yeah I thought you would like that. I was even more certain you just couldnât resist pointing it out. But thanks for playing.
I donât think you realize how corny it is to memorize a bunch or tired ass arguments and then simply recite them without taking into account the real world implications of them.
Literally no idea what you are on about, but thanks for contributing nothing and ignoring the crucial points, as usual.
Everything looks like elitism through naivety-colored glasses.
The people who hire body guards do so because they regularly get death threats. They donât carry guns, because carrying a gun doesnât make people safer. They hire people who have a bunch of non-gun skills to be in charge of their safety, and those people carry guns.
Guns are a liability. If you own a gun, youâre much more likely to accidentally shoot yourself than you are to use your gun to defend yourself or someone else. People are regularly killed by the unintentional firing of guns â in that sense, guns absolutely do kill people.
Require a license to use one, require a test to get the license, license revoked if you misuse it, must be registered with the state, display unique ID number on it in two places, must have insurance, multiple safety requirements, annual inspections, annual taxesâŚ
If we regulated guns the way we regulated cars, they would be a lot safer.
Though I didnât directly address any of your suggestions, my post was intended as a response to yours: your suggestions are about regulating gun purchases, and wonât do much to control guns in the US.
My favorite of your suggestions was having repeated questions on the test, it seems spiteful at first but on reflection I think would actually improve the validity of the test as a measure of understanding.
Youâre all missing to point.
I walk on water because Iâm not protecting myself.
Spirit is more powerful than a gun.
Youâre being deceived.
We are what people would call mortal here.
The humans use rudimentary logic.
Anyone who shoots anyone is going to hell.
My life doesnât matter on earth anymore.
Iâll take the worst torture in existence just to be with the person who took it too.