It’s official, they’re going to get rid of Andrew Jackson on twenty dollar bills and put images of Harriet Tubman on them instead.
But wait, it gets much better… 
politico.com/story/2016/04/t … ill-222204
Monopoly money!
Oh well, it’s not like currency of the United States is going to be worth very much in the next couple of years anyways…
I can’t see how changing the face on a bill from a slave owner, pro slavery guy to a woman who was born a slave and escaped and later freed other slaves makes a bill more like monopoly money.
It makes no difference, but I would think even you would have more respect for someone who was in the elites and owned people, literally, than for someone who escaped slavery and risked her life to free others from it.
Yes, I can imagine all sorts of ways this might be misued, but who gives a shit really.
It’s a better symbol, in the sense that she represents better values.
Unless the idea is that since she is a better person this misleads people into thinking that money isn’t part of a system of enslavement. That you object to the use of a better human to whitewash money, since it is misleading to have a real hero on the money.
With her on it it is a bigger lie.
But it doesn’t smell like your reaction in the OP. There is seems like you think she diminishes the bill.
So Monopoly money and the other is signalling being a good person.
Anyway,
In 20 years Ferguson and Trayvon Martin will be additions to the pantheon. They will join Martin Luther King, the bus lady and so on…
Cuckservatives will join the choir and praise them too, that’s how this works.
It’s not that I like Andrew Jackson or any of the presidents better. This all just sounds very hokie to me and seems to be attempt to further drag the United States down under political correctness which I’m against. I hope not to live to see the day where Betty Friedan is on a piece of public currency. Either way money and currency is the instrument of people’s enslavement.
If anything this is the attempt at further creating the facade or illusion of an egalitarian society that doesn’t exist and never will.
It’s not that I like Andrew Jackson or any of the presidents better. This all just sounds very hokie to me and seems to be attempt to further drag the United States down under political correctness which I’m against. I hope not to live to see the day where Betty Friedan is on a piece of public currency. Either way money and currency is the instrument of people’s enslavement.
If anything this is the attempt at further creating the facade or illusion of an egalitarian society that doesn’t exist and never will.
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You think Andrew Jackson wasn’t a politically correct choice?
It’s a mockery… The people on money are being mocked while everyone does not even notice.
Yep, and a mockery of people who fought against slavery, and the banking cartel. (Fed reserve.)
Ironic that they kicked a Democrat off the $20 bill and replaced him with a Republican.
Now this gesture will appease blacks and shitlibs and they will turn down their whining about AmeriKKKa.
Actually no, the whining and rent seeking and moral signalling of all those parties involved will intensify.
Moral indignation is what they are hooked on and it feels good and that’s that.
Fuckin niggers. We should have slaveholders and confederates on every piece of currency minted in this country. A reminder of this country when it actually stood for something positive. Fuck Lincoln and his fascistic, left wing, big government ass. i think he should be replaced with General Lee. McCarthy and Nixon deserve places too. Fucking slave loving liberals, this country is going down the toilet and a nigger woman on the 20 is just another sign of how liberal retards ruin everything.
If we MUST put a nigger on our currency, it should be Ben Carson. Now that’s a black boy who knows his place.
Don’t see what they did wrong.
Replacing a slave-owning Democrat with a pro 2nd Amendment Republican? I don’t see why not.
In all seriousness though, political correctness is humorously out of control. It’s got to be bad when Moreno is complaining about it. THe last time me and Moreno talked about political correctness, he assured me that it was more of a problem on the right than the left, and there was nothing to get worked up about.
This is important to note. There is nothing you can possibly do to appease or satisfy the types of folks who push for this sort of thing. If it were possible, it would have already happened.
Only “this type of thing” actually makes sense to do. Whether or not it will be enough to appease everyone is besides the point, since despite the predictable and turgid whining about political correctness on the Right, the point of doing it is not in fact to appease racial extremists so much as to promote common decency and common sense.
That said, i still don’t think a nigger bitch should be replacing a good and decent white slaveholder like Andrew Jackson on our currency. It’s appalling.
And this sort of quip is SO facile and historically ignorant that it actually suits the American Right Wing perfectly. i wouldn’t expect anything more from them in response to something like this.
She shouldn’t be on this sort of currency period, it is a HUGH mistake.
Harriett Tubman did some great things, quite deserving of a Gold Dollar Commemorative Coin, but she didn’t exactly advance the US’ intellectual understanding of anything such as say Frederick Douglas did, who intellectually would of fit in much better with the philosophical tones of Thomas Jefferson of the founding Fathers, Martin Luther King as well. They aren’t respected out of political correctness, but by the beauty of their intellectual endeavor and righteousness of their intellect… they made sound arguments and history changed through their efforts. Tubman was a human trafficker… great and all, but not that great, considering she was hardly alone in this… she is a figurehead more than anything.
This isn’t to diminish her life risking contributions or her alturism and vision… but it isn’t enough to get onto the most powerful currency traded on the planet on arguably it’s most important, commonly traded bill. Heck, even George Washington Carver… the black inventor who worked heavily with peanuts would make a much better choice than her.
I’m opposed to the idea of instituting a “black person for the sake of putting a black person on, cause it is time” or “because everyone else is slave owners”, etc… a lot of people are opposed to political correctness because they have Neo-Nazis Sympathies here, I oppose it for the exact opposite, I dislike the racism. Harriet Tubman is a mockery of Harriett Tubman, representing not a civil war figure, but a modern day crisis artificially pushed by some of the darkest and most twisted aspects of our political community to enforce racist hysteria and tensions to benefit a struggling Democratic Party at the polls, one ran by white people over lording blacks at that.
I oppose the racism because I don’t want to deal with the hysteria. Quickest way to end racism is to knock off the stupidity and just be a normal human. Don’t have conversations about race, just have conversations. Don’t look at a bus as a civil rights battle as to where to sit, just sit down, don’t be weird, and go to work… it is a fucking bus people, no need for a long ass essay and speech on Rosa Parks to further alienate and pit black youths and their superlib WASP Confederates against the rest of society… over stuff that happened a few generations ago.
We need a proper symbol on the bill. Tubman is fine on a Dollar Gold Coin, with Susan B. Anthony and Saskagawia, but not on our most important currency, there are way too many other black people deserving to be on this… and I think as proup as Tubman would be to be put on a bill, I doubt she would be offended at that statement, she would readily agree… blacks are diverse, have had a important impact on society, there really are better choices than her, it isn’t wrong to say this. What is wrong is adopting this during a artificially provoked reign of racial hysteria, of Democratic race wars aimed not at healing a divide or collectiveness, but of stroking pure racial hatred and jealously and continuing historical I’ll will that honestly should of faded by this point. Young black youth in the cities are no more disadvantaged than whites in a trailer park, just the black youth have a handy political excuse handed to them. There have been between 6-10 generations since the civil war… lots of black families have moved up the ladder in that time, lots of whites have moved down. If your currently on the down ladder, while it wouldn’t necessarily be wrong to say your there because of past prejudice of your ancestors, it wouldn’t be right either. Your there because they didn’t play the game and seek out opportunities like others did, because your ancestors failed to apply their intelligence to their situation. This is something you inherit, regardless of race… the ability to change this for yourself and others reside completely in yourself, in this era. Screaming Travon Martin, Ferguson, Black Lives Matter etc won’t get you, or the nation to that mountain Martin Luther King spoke of, but rather further enslave you to bad concepts and ill will towards your neighbors who otherwise haven’t sought to harm you. It is all a inherited story line, a excuse juiced for the political gain of a struggling political party. Don’t buy into the hype, reject it. There is no difference between the mentality of the KKK and Black Lives Matter on a fundamental level… both are to be rejected for what they are, racial institutions that encourage disunity and divide for political gain. It isn’t time to put a black person on a bill, but rather a great person… our greatest people, color blind, regardless of race. When we look at it from this perspective, Harriett Tubman isn’t a option. Martin Luther King has a serious shot though, even against President Eisenhower. Both accomplished a lot, worthy of it on multiple levels. Race shouldn’t be the defining characteristic.
I also think we should rotate our currency out more, every few years, so others can get on the bills, so black people have a legitimate chance of authentically making it on the currency for the right chances, not the wrong ones. This is the first major change we have had in generations. It should be every few years, where great leaders are brought on every few years. Some blacks, such as the ones I mentioned above, deserve to be on that list without controversy, and if it was common to see new bills, they would have a authentic chance of being on one. Harriett isn’t one of them. She can be on a dollar coin.
As for Jackson… he was a war of 1812 hero, and he did represent some important values, a Everyman sort of outlook vs a east coast political elite, but this is also the guy who rejected the political values of his era of “civilizing the Indian”, in claiming that if Indians lived like white people, owned and farmed land in communities like whites, adopted Christianity, there would be no issue. He kicked a lot of such Indians off their lands and exiled them on a long, genocidal March called “The Trail of Tears”. This alone should get him booted.
Just don’t think Harriett Tubman deserves to be his replacement, there are many people of many races, including blacks, who have a better claim. Thus isn’t to diminish her importance, but we need to take honest stock of her and her actual position in history. She is a great person, but isn’t worthy of this honor. I wouldn’t slap her on Mount Rushmore.
Seeking appeasement won’t work. With children, if it is necessary you have to set the rules and stick to the rules and ignore their whining.
Or, you persuade them to behave a certain way, which is done by influencing their moral compass and train them in accordance with those principles.
This must be done with sly methods because the subject is not supposed to notice your influence.
The left has been very successful with such indoctrination programs but they are not the only ones. The right has also been trained to react in certain ways and to accept certain premises which is necessary to keep the discourse going the way it does.
What is typical, and the uglypeopleguy is not the only one who I’ve noticed doing this recently, is this appeal to ‘reason’ when actually they are talking about their morality. They can’t even see their morality and values as being their/a morality and values anymore. It’s simply ‘reasonable’ what they deem moral.
Perhaps the concept of values, and their presumptive transcendence by “philosophers working on the sly”, should be abandoned then for more solid ground, if it is so ripe for abuse and fallacious statements?
Only people I read asserting values around here tend to be dipshit moral relativists/ moral irrelevants, who play endlessly with variations on themes and semantics, but boil down to mumbling pointless nothings. No statement is actually ever said save "Hey, I’m saying something completely refutable and outrageous, follow my ideas and you’ll get AIDS in your butt and whip marks, a needle in the arm, and a few hastily written aphorisms attempting to substitute long establish and examimed works on wisdom inherited from high antiquity.
What is the fucking point? No point, it is apparent it is all cock play. Might as well have Nietzsche’s face bedazzled on the face of a codpiece, you gain essentially the same bullshit effect.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codpiece
Nothing is gained from talking of valuation and revaluation of values save more death from stupid, very poorly thought out schemes developed by idiots in search of tragedy, and the sterilizing effect of venereal disease, such as Nietzsche’s Syphilius. Good riddence to that cocksore excuse for a philosopher, and all his moronic, racially inbred ilk.