Help! Something is wrong with my science experiment!

I’m trying to judge which is smarter, octopus or cats, so I built a underwater maze, and timed the octopus. They explored it really fast, I was impressed.

Then I tried putting similarly sized kittens in the maze, and they fought me tooth and nail, like it was the end of the world. When I finally put the lid on the maze, they didn’t even try to explore, just floated around, scratching, then they would just quit, not move for hours, floating against the glass lid.

I dont get what is happening. They didnt even try to push the golf ball down the circular tubing to find the exut on the other side, but every octopus did.

So, how am I supposed to establish animal IQs if the kittens refuse to do anything? I have the cats in recovery. Once they start moving again I will give it another shot. They are still wet, and very cold to the touch. Won’t meow either.

I believe in science.

What should I do differently next time?

Octopussy?

Cat need gear…

A scuba diving catfish.

I suggest removing the head from a cat and placing it on an octopus or the other way around. If this does not solve the problem, then I suggest retrying the experiment with dogs instead of cats.

Dasein? Nope.
Conflicting Goods? Nope.
Political economy? Nope.

Sorry, can’t be of service.

Perhaps somewhere in the works of Aristotle there might be a clue. :wink:

How can this not be Dasein?

Well, you did fail to post pics of the cats during their testing. That alone should call for you to repeat the experiment.

Well, because the manner in which I construe both the meaning and the relevance of dasein revolves around human interactions that come to clash over conflicting goods. And then the extent to which this is relevant in turn to the manner in which I connect the dots between human identity, value judgments and political economy out in a particular world.

Indeed, how many cats or octopi might that be relevant to?

I know: Let’s explore it. Here for example: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=189516

Any luck yet with Aristotle? Oh, and try Kant too. :wink:

For the cat your sense of fairness is dasein-based.