Hey Biggy, we GOT a context!!!

Atheist or apostate scientists & politicians/stakeholders - when imagining a God might exist that would hold them accountable for messing in DNA & new herd-branding tech - sooth their consciences by passing blame on him for even allowing free will.

Irony: Same folks who tell Christians they don’t think for themselves when it comes to making moral decisions.

See previous replies. Accept forgiveness from the only One who legit has it to offer. Ask him how he wants you to help him fix it before it’s too late.

Ichthus,

Hell is not a freewill decision. Consent violation is not a freewill decision.

Get your definitions straight.

Hell by definition is where you don’t want to be or have happen.

Since (even mildly) nobody wants this…

We’re all in a hell realm.

Does that sound like an all loving creator to you?

No freewill?

It’s not loving.

Let me remind you what love is again …

Everyone gets everything they want at the expense of no being forever.

That’s what love is.

To accomplish this feat there cannot be more than one sentient person in the same universe…

Unless it’s a super-being marionetting (doing an infinite number of impressions as well - hyperdimensional reflected) an infinite number of philosophic zombies to your individual preference.

This is a good being after all, right?

Earth is a helleaven realm, and your mind chooses which one appears.

Three little piggies went to market. Three little piggy stayed home. Three little piggies had roast beef. Three little piggies had none. Three little piggies were boogie-woogie piggies and boogie woogied all the way Home.

EnJOY counting that one.

It’s not which one you choose, it’s which one you ignore. You are literally lying to me right now.

Some say, Jesus bring the rain.

I say fire, Jesus… bring it.

youtu.be/XminlVhLma4

Like this:
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With this:

“The LORD, the LORD, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness.” (Ex. 34:6)

“Yet my unfailing love for you will not be shaken nor my covenant of peace be removed.” (Isaiah 54:10)

“Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? …am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live?” (Ez. 18:23)

“For I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign LORD. Repent and live!” (Ez. 18:32)

“I will betroth you to me forever; …in righteousness and justice, in love and compassion.” (Hosea 2:19)

“I will show my love…I will say to those called ‘Not my people,’ ‘You are my people,’” (Hosea 2:23)

“I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.” (Luke 5:32)

“Son, you are always with me, and all that is mine is yours.” (Luke 15:31)

“As I have loved you, so you must love one another.” (John 13:34)

“As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you.” (John 15:9)

“My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you.” (John 15:12)

“Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends.” (John 15:13)

“I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you.” (John 15:15)

“God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” (Romans 5:7-11)

“My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” (2 Cor. 12:9)

“I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you.” (Rev. 3:9)

“Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline. So be earnest, and repent.” (Rev. 3:19)

with a side of bacon

I don’t like making long posts.

I can refute all those passages.

Pick one, just one, and I’ll refute it.

Take your pick. Just realize. You pick one of ‘em… you pick all of ‘em. Something about a proof text or a context or a pretext or post-text or a subtext or a group text. I dunno. I’m doin m’homework.

Ok. I’ll pick this one:

“God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” (Romans 5:7-11)

For one… Christ didn’t die. Duh. It’s right there in the Bible… he just took a nap for a few days and came back as a being of pure light. But then again, if Einstein is correct… we’re all beings of pure light already.

But let’s go a little further…

Did Christ really wipe all the sin from the world?

Look around you.

Let’s say that I murder someone and repent …

Then I murder someone the next day and repent again…

Now let’s say Christ is like, “ok, I figured your gig out, you don’t get away with this anymore”

Then the person replies, “I have Murder Tourette’s Syndrome. God made me this way.”

What the fuck is Christ going to do now? It’s all part of the great plan right?

So Christ intercedes and heals the Murder Tourette’s Syndrome…

And god yells at Christ in a booming voice and says, “it’s not part of the plan to heal that disease … I put it there to send all the people to hell forever… how dare you interfere with the divine plan? To the cross with you!”

And this has exactly what to do with the biological fact that covid exists solely because God brought it into existence?

Oh, I forgot: His mysterious ways. [-o<

Ok - whatever a human engineers is going to be accounted for. Especially if it hurts children. If the human does not repent, which is not just a mental act, God will still turn it back to good, but not the good of the unrepentant engineer. Only if the engineer repents do they choose “your will be done on earth as it is in heaven“. If a human did not engineer it, it will still be turned back to good. You can still put it in God’s hands and ask him how he can use you to help him do that. Not that he needs your help - you need to help him. It is the great commission on a grander scale.

And here’s where you got it wrong.

Repentance is just, “I’m sorry, please forgive me”

Atonement is, “I fucked up and have to stop all those instances of fucking up for everyone just to be forgiven”

Different concepts.

And what of a mental illness like Murder Tourette’s Syndrome?

What’s the point of that? Especially when god gets angry when it’s healed!

Ecmandu, Can you please post your last two replies as a video link? I have this mental illness where I have a hard time taking people seriously sometimes. It may or may not help.

I already made a video on repentance, atonement and forgiveness.

Your sarcasm annoys me.

The concept is that Jesus ATONED for all sin.

All we have to do is repent now.

Know your bible concepts.

If you know… you will live…

…as loved. Like you have Golden Rule Tourettes.

That is the only way God will be mocked :wink:

Yeah.

Ing.

Yeah.

Bird.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah!

You do realize the golden rule is Hammurabis’ code worded in a different way… right?

Insofar as lex talionis limits retribution, yes. The golden rule is found in various forms in every major culture in history. Transcultural because eternal.

But it doesn’t work … with the golden rule, if I forgive everyone for everything, I’ll always be forgiven by everyone for everything. That’s an eternal damnation rule.