I agree with faust on the nonissue point.
For awhile i was homophobic but that was media related confusion…
Once i met more and more people i realized that gays and lezbians are actually nicer than straight people (not all lezbians).
But people are just people to me. Sexuality is of incredible indifference…
Some people look at homosexuality in the sense that it helps to decrease the population…
Personally i see it as more women for me and a better future for my children. Gay or not.
Agreed. Sex’s purposes are just accidental and not the essence of the act. Unless we place God’s purpose in context.
Now my next query is this.
My Sociology proffesor argued that homosexuality is caused by the environment where the person was brought up. Now assuming this is true to the majority should we correct it in a psychological way?
What I mean is if we have anympho here who was a nympho due to a sexual abuse in that person’s childhood we provide that person psychiatric rehabilitation. Now should we do it to homosexuals to?
Yup they are people too.
Haha. Well unless you do not classify bisexuality in the picture. Which well will lead us to another sexual trend.
Your sociology professor is arguing that homosexuality is not “normal”.
You have equated this to nymphomania. You give a possible cause for nymphomania - sexual abuse as a child.
But I haven’t heard a cause for homosexuality. What cause would that be?
I would like to hear your sociology prof’s argument.
I want to tell you to get your tuition money back for that class, but I’ll keep an open mind.
lol Everyone is throwing around the tuition word lately…
I would say that his proff stated that homosexuality is on the nurture side of the debate rather than nature, i don’t see any reason to assume he or she asserted anything else…
As for your reply to Iosepusmagus’s comments, i agree.
What is “normal”… normal is something which the majority usually decides, but secondary to that, “normal” has an indifferent connotation where as “not normal” has a definite negative connotation.
Is nymphomania not normal? why is it not normal? is it only brought abou through sexual abuse? is it “bad”?
similarily
is homosexuality nor normal? why? what brings about homosexuality? why should it be viewed as not normal? and why is it bad?
I think that if you told a parent something like “giving your child oranges makes him turn out gay”, the parent would be put in a strange position.
Do you forbid you child form ever eating oranges because you do not want him or her to turn out gay? do you let him/her try oranges if he/she wants to? if you want your child to be gay do you give them oranges on purpose?
It’s really like attacking another string to every parents already bloated marrionett.
They control how smart you are, how nice you are, what friends you have, your personal beliefs, your future, your past, your daily life, your privelages and your sanctions, all for better or for worse…
I can’t really see how controlling their sexuality is any different.
Just finished it last semester. And I have no complaints she gave me a high grade for that subjects, haha.
Wonderer- Yes I think you gave a good and sound case with your orange scenario.
We know that homosexuality is not normal per accidens to humanity at large. Agreed.
But being unnormal is not a good description of evil, right?
So is sodomy a good thing?
it all depends…
sodomy is a personal choice/prefrence.
Depends on ones prejudice.
Iose - the choice between good and bad must always be made, if we think they are the only two choices.
But we don’t have to think that.
Yeah I understand the grey area argument.
But I think wonderer and mark made that clear.
So my Catholic predisposition suggests otherwise, but as an objective act I would still observe its effect on humanity in the long run. Well thanks anyways.
There is no real guiding light which determines social norms like good and bad besides instinct…
Our complex rituals have evolved along with us… There are a few constants across all cultures like buyring the dead and what not but in terms of good and bad, some cultures are opposite extremes of each-other.
I solve the grey area problem by thinking of it as a democracy. The majority rules.
But we philosophers know that the majority rule is a fallacy. 99% of the population could be stark raving mad for all we know…
Here’s the insight… In a world where everyone is stark raving mad, they are all happy with the way they do things.
Pragmatism takes over when using the mjority rule. and it is simply used to effect the most wide spread content possible…
But there is no big book which says in it that farting is rude, or burping is obnoxious, or pre marital sex is wrong, or marriage is right, or sodomy is wrong or right. There is no all time “right”. Only the ones we each posess in our individual points of view.
So how do you deal with the sodomy issue? is it right or wrong? We cannot prove it wrong, but we cannot prove it right either… You “could” do whatever you pleased. but the society we are in forces us to comply to standards in the interest of wide spread content…
“Sodomy is wrong on the basis that it demotes wide spread content”- somebody.
This statement “though not particularily sound” is how our society determines norms…
As for determining what is right or wrong… we have no damn clue outside of “what we want”…