I realized that over the last few years I have missed all the Oscar-worthy movies because my husband doesn’t like leaving the house much. So, I decided to do an online movie service called Netflix. I have been enjoying movies sent right to the front door. Ah, technology.
Now what does this have to do with the title of my thread? hmmm. I had some real questions after renting Brokeback Mountain which I had never seen. Being the king of the homophobes, my husband never watched it. Or frankly, I never shared it with him since he would have wretched.
I thought of putting this in The Review but then realized there was much more I wanted to discuss: the essence of homosexuality itself. After watching it I understood the sheer humanness of love and when it boils down to it, true sexuality has nothing to do with bodies… it is more. We probably all have some homosexual tendencies although I certainly haven’t tapped into mine and the idea of lying with a woman is completely unappealing to me.
Now, here’s my question: Women can have orgasms many different ways and frankly the penis is the least of our vehicles to orgasmic pleasure. Sorry guys, but it’s true. We thrive on foreplay and honestly the only pleasure we get from a penis is knowng that our partner is deriving pleasure from using it. Men, on the other hand seem to derive great pleasure from the ebb and flow “inside” of a woman’s body. Why then do homosexuals find so much pleasure in anal sex if it did not have certain physical similarities to a vagina… and why, if they are interested in their same sex does this feel the very best? Lesbians are far less likely to use strap-on paraphenalia than gay men are apt to engage in anal. Men need this tight squeeze to feel good, yet women could be sublimely satisfied if they never saw another penis… I shouldn’t generalize.
That’s me, of course… Hidy Ho.
I know, I know… intimacy isn’t driven by body parts, but why do you think homosexual men derive their greatest pleasure by putting themselves inside their partners? Isn’t this natures way of saying, “hey, my penis feels the best inside of another human being?” If that is the case how to you explain the physiological aspects of pleasure in homosexual men? Doesn’t this contradict the very essence of their homosexuality?
The essence of homosexuality is feeling that only those of the same sex are sexually attractive.
In male sexuality, physical force and texture matters more then in female sexuality. For women, it’s all about atmosphere, etc. [Usually]. As you touched on, in the OP.
What kind of question is that!?
It’s like you just said:
“Does personal preferance contradict what someone is?”
No. But traditional sex is “man enters woman” so with homosexuality why would entering anything come into play? Just because of texture? Arousal? I don’t understand the strap-on thing either. As a lesbian, why have a woman with a fake penis if your preference is in looking at and loving a woman? Should her feminine body not be enough? Should she also need a plastic penis thus simulating what she supposedly isn’t attracted to?
Why is it that men find entering a woman or a man erotic and women (usually) don’t find being entered as erotic? G-spot stimulation can be done with a penis but it usually isn’t as effective unless you are standing on your head and spinning plates in the air.
You answered the question with the texture and physical force, but I don’t know if I agree with that. Texture matters to women. Physical force? Only if I’m paid.
Perhaps another element of homosexuality can be considered.
It is the attraction to what is more like one’s own self – not to what is different.
So, it can be seen as a way of having sex with one’s own self, or loving and lusting for one’s own self (or idealized self) in ways that you cannot through masturbation or narcissism.
You know, every once in a while I’ll see a butt that I just go gah-gah over. These belong to women, with strict regularity. I don’t know why. I don’t care why. You see a butt you like, well, you’ve seen a butt you like. There are a lot of butts I see that I don’t like, also belonging to women. If we could categorise all the butts I see that I am attracted to, and call that class of butts, oh, I don’t know, “bropos”, then that would make me a broposexual. If, some day, a guy’s butt snuck into that class, I’d just have to live with it. And so would everybody else, I suppose.
If we say that the class of individuals that any given person is attracted to are called “gropos”, then we are all groposexuals.
So, why does asking this question give me a dirty mind? God, where is Shyster when I need her?
Some say that sex is about reproduction which would explain the drive to insert or to be inserted (if you will) but what about homosexuals and 60 year old women? The physiology of pleasure is a strange phenomenon to me especially in regard to my original post.
I had this argument with someone else and they insisted that sexuality is built on reproduction… I say that the factor of human pleasure has many more variables that have nothing to do with having babies. You would think that sex is the carrot for reproduction, and that may be to most, but there are too many contradictions to this. Homosexuality is one of those contradictions. If it was about reproduction, why masturbate? Dreaming of having a toddler one day? I don’t think so.
Saturday morning and anal sex. Ah. Isn’t life grand?
I think your question overlooks a critical piece, Bessy. Lesbian sex involves things like licking and tongue insertion. If not that, it involves hand insertion or some sort mutual stimulation that leads typically into some kind of insertion. (from what I understand of lesbians anyway) Gay sex between guys may involve a blow job or various rubbing or something. (I’m not an expert on gay sex either) But the bottom line is that the nerve endings are set up such that for women the buttons might be able to be hit with something else OTHER than a penis, but it will need to be something somewhat similar TO a penis in the sense that it can fit in there and light up whatever needs to be lit.
On the other hand, for guys maximum sensation comes from being IN something. A “hand job” is a simulation of being “in something”. That’s why it is enjoyable I suspect. So, to be crude, putting one’s penis in another guy’s ass at the end of the day I suspect simply FEELS good, or at least feels good if you like putting your penis in asses.
I don’t think it is anything much more symbolic than that. You don’t have quite as many options if you are into guys in terms of holes to pick from, so it’s either some oral sex or some anal sex. (I think nostril and ear sex is out)
Ah, yes. What I like about ILP is that I can ask anything I want. In this particular case I wish there were more gay posters who could give us their expertise.
Those of us who have given vaginal birth to a couple of children some time ago, those of us who have long ago been somewhat permanently stretched wide beyond the narrowness of our youth, can easily forget how exquisitely pleasurable a tight-fitting penis once felt … for those all too brief moments of time .
And, the byproduct of a tight fit meant that our partner’s lower pelvic bone and muscle, absent of middle-age “padding”, once pressed firmly and gently against our clitoris, deeply secured in place by the tight fit, and to a gentle climactically stimulating effect.
Ah, those were the days … … .
And though the joys of youthful sex have declined, hopefully love remains the best aphrodisiac.
Nevertheless, I understand why some would now rather watch movies … and why husbands don’t want to “go out” much.
And sometimes we digress … and wonder about “other” things.
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