The fact that you believe one is true and right makes me now wonder why you now claim it is wrong.
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You have to prove them, but you can’t. Of course we’ve always known you’ve just made up all of them.
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See how they make claims, but when challenged to prove them, they refuse to prove them.
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This is different from my other items. Here anew is not being insulting, using ad homs, etc. But it is a common problem with anew that he doesn’t realize what his idiosyncratic way of communication does, so he deems misunderstandings the fault of others. Let’s look at the example:
What you actually said was:
And how I actually replied was:
What anew said was: By the way, finding answers and solutions to all the so-called “problems” in Life is also already known, with certainty.
In English, the phrase ‘so called’ means that one does not think the noun that follows - in this case ‘problems’ - are actually problems.
One problem with anew’s responses to other people is if they change even something not central to the idea at all, anew will respond as if they are making something up out of thin air.
It was quite natural and English-fluent of Acltalls to have taken that phrase as meaning there weren’t any problems.
Now as said, this is a qualitatively different issue from the initiating insulting, ad hommy responses, but given that it will be considered other people’s fault if there is miscommunication, and anew takes no responsibility for his own idiosyncratic was of using terms and he sees as completely foreign even slight rewordings of what he said, it ends up in the morass of ad homs, insults and condescension.
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I do not have to do any such thing, especially as they have already been proved irrefutably True.
See how they believe things, and absolutely so some times, although they have absolutely no proof for their beliefs.
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No they haven’t been, see how you’re running away already. Of course without your wrong beliefs and superiority complex you would die, you are that weak.
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LOL I have never insulted absolutely anyone here, but “greenfuse” is absolutely free to believe absolutely otherwise.
Or, the other things as well.
See how there is literally no ‘problem’ at all here, but this one still manages to “see” one.
Considering what I have said on multiple occasions it it is Truly remarkable that this one can get things here so absolutely Wrong.
But it just keeps doing what it Wrongly calls “mind-reading” and believing its ability in this is faultless, no wonder it jumps to so many wrong and False conclusions.
Once again, this one shows that it still believes that ‘the way’ it uses words is ‘the way’ everyone else does or should.
Which is Truly hilarious to watch one keep actually believing this.
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Prove it.
How do you KNOW without any doubt at all what has or has not been proven to every human being,
LOL ‘I’ have not moved at all.
you are the one who made a claim, I asked you to prove it, and it was you who is “running away” and now ‘trying to’ hide.
Look “atla” you have now claimed that ALL of them are wrong, which implies you have the proof. So, do you have the proof?
If yes, then will you present it here?
If no, then why not? What are you afraid of exactly?
you also claimed that they have not been proven. Which also implies that you already have the proof for this as well.
So, instead of making claims that you will not even begin to present the proof for, how about you honest about those actual beliefs you have.
I do not have beliefs, except of course the one I have that I have to keep repeating for you. So, the rest of what you wrote and claimed is completely nonsensical.
Look, you claim those 14 claims are Wrong, yet you are proving that you do not have any proof at all for your belief and claim here, and that you cannot prove this at all.
Thank you for bringing this information and thread to my attention. I had no idea how zealot like in their beliefs anew is. I was catching on quite quickly that either I was engaging someone who was being purposefully obtuse, or with someone who doesn’t have english as a first language and therefore lacks nuance and reading comprehension that is necessary for complex, context driven argumentation. In other words, they don’t seem to know what I am saying most of the time.
He does like to ask a lot of questions. These do not necessarily mean he doesn’t understand. But it likely to be a very idiosyncratic conversation. Expect to be surprised a lot and, yes, it’s like English is not his first language. I don’t think that’s the case, but it is like that quite often.
Yea honestly, it’s frustrating enough that in another response to him I just outright said I’m no longer going to engage in discussion with him because it seems like the misunderstandings are almost intentional with how he seems to take everything I say in a different direction than it’s intended one, and he never actually responds to anything I say with any kind of genuine engagement. He only asks questions and makes unsupported statements.
He has a couple of unusual agendas. Not a problem in and of itself. But sooner or later one meets condescension, ad homs, pretend minreading, etc. And the assertion of Messiah-level knowledge.
You don’t really have a grasp what words like ‘irrefutable’ and ‘fact’ mean. You also don’t really know what ‘proof’ means. You probably didn’t go to school where they mention such basic things.
We don’t know that. Of course you, the human, think that your ‘I’ is literally a part of God, you act like you’re God, but everything you’ve shown so far is just consistent with the idea that you have schizophrenia or some other psychosis.
We don’t know any of those and probably will never know, since we can only observe a part of the universe. (You are of course also conflating the two meanings of infinite.) Logically it makes sense that it’s unbounded and eternal, but that’s no proof.
Or not. Soon evolution favourable for life could stop and we could be headed for a Big Crunch.
According to modern science the universe doesn’t create anything.
Last time people thought something like this was maybe 100 years ago. Billiard ball physics with empty space between them. Then came Einstein, QM, things like that.
Lol no comment
Yes yes, as we know you couldn’t prove this one either. Meanwhile it’s perfectly sensible that every human has a unique individual mind. You are actually a great example of that, you are very unique.
A fundamental reason, though the DNA and the society they’re living in may be bigger reasons.
No proof that you know the future, no proof that you know the actual Truths in Life, no proof that humanity will end up agreeing with you. No proof for “APE-thinking” being behind this one.
That’s a big one, but an even bigger one is your lack of proofs. No one has any good reason to believe you. There were many millions of charlatans before you, so far you’re no different.
Intelligence usually peaks around 25-30 years of age.
Actually many children can be pretty brutal too.
No proof that the Mind is always open. No proof that the Mind sees and knows everything. No proof that brain and mind are two different things. No proof that a belief system can completely close down most people, although it does seem to completely close down you specifically, which is super interesting imo.
No proof of that either. Humanity has tried everything in the last 10000 years including being truly open and willing to change, not much has come of it.
No proof of that either. Indeed you would have some cult leader potential with speeches like that, if you could get along with people better.
Once more another one has been led completely and utterly astray.
Contrary to what you have been told and/or believe is true, I do not have any beliefs here.
(Now watch as I will have to go through explaining the exact same things over, again.)
See how they want to ‘be right’ and argue for against ‘a position’, instead of just wanting to have open and honest discussions to find out what is actually True and Right, in Life.
LOL it says it like it knows what I say and mean most of the time.
Do, once again, this one shows how it has absolutely no reali idea nor clue, and instead of doing what is needed to find out and obtain actual understanding and clarity, it will instead just keep on assuming and presuming things.
And, some wondered why coming to an understanding took them so, so long.
That is one presumption.
Do, let’s just keep on looking at how things ‘appear’ to be, and never to absolutely anything to find out what the actual Truth is at all.
If you not express the intended meaning or understanding, then how are others meant to know and understand what you meant, exactly?
Is asking open clarifying questions not a kind of genuine engagement, to you?
To me it is the best way to obtain a True and Correct fully understanding of what the other is actually saying, and meaning.
Sorry for trying to understand what you mean better.
Do you now know why, exactly, make unsupported statements?
This one says and states this as though it don’t do it “itself”.
What you call 'Messiah-level knowledge" is just ‘normal every-day Truth’ to me.
Is this the type of ‘mindreading’ you talk about “greenfuse”?
Is anyone else as surprised as i am that “atla” believes it can I own, exactly, the very thoughts and knowledge within other bodies, and even believe it knows them better than they do.
Are these like those ‘unsupported statements’ you claim I make “acltalls”?
you are absolutely free to presume this if you like “atla”. But, will you define what the words, ‘irrefutable’, ‘fact’, and ‘proof’ mean, to you, exactly?
If no, then why not?
After all, you believe, absolutely, that I do not know what those words mean. So, will you enlighten me to what they mean, exactly?
I am sure most readers would love to see how you define those words and show ‘us’ what those words mean, to you.
What “atla” actually means is it does not know that, and only presumes and believes, absolutely, that ‘I’ do not know that.
Obviously I would not have said what I did it I, like you, did not yet know what the actual Truth is here.
But what you claim here is ‘of course’ is absolutely Wrong and False.
That is surprising, especially coming from someone like you.
Where did ‘this idea’ come from, besides from you?
But, again, the proof is already here. So, the Fact remains.
And, again, of course you and others would not yet known, because you and others have not yet experienced the proofs.
you sound like the ones who kept claiming “We don’t know”, in regards to the earth revolving around the sun claim. Those people also were just going on and off their preexisting beliefs and presumptions only also.
LOL Why do you believe, absolutely, that I am conflating some claimed ‘two meanings’. What even are these two meanings, to you?
And, of course, ‘that’ is not the proof. Why did you even presume that could have been?
The proof is obviously something else entirely.
Do what?
That does not even imply ‘end’, let alone mean ‘the end’.
you speak as though so-called ‘modern science’ could never be Wrong. Which the absurdity of, speaks for itself.
See how when people are not open they have no interest nor curiosity in wanting to learn and understand anything further nor anew.
Again, it lacks curiosity, absolutely.
See how when people believe things, it is a complete and utter waste to even try to have a discussion with them.
it obviously gave no thought to what I said and could have been meaning.
LOL it has absolutely no clue nor idea what the words ‘APE-thinking’ means and refers to, but it will carry on with absolutely no consideration into discovering.
Absolutely no curiosity existed anymore in some people, like “atla” keeps showing and proving, for me.
See how because I have not presented the proofs yet, people like “atla” believe, absolutely, they they do not exist.
“atla” is again showing and proving, exactly, how and why the belief-system stopped and prevented human beings from moving forward in learning and understanding.
Because “atla” believes, absolutely, that every human being has its own mind, “atla” is not open, at all, to learning and understanding absolutely anything that opposes or contradicts this belief of its.
Okay.
No one had any good reason also to believe the earth revolves around the sun, but this obviously and certainly did not make what they were ‘currently’ believing to be absolutely true, true at all either.
And here is one the best examples of APE-thinking that anyone could have been provided.
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No. Anew doesn’t understand. Anew has said that he has come here in part to learn how to communicate better. One of the problems with his communication is that he initiates ad homs,condescension, generalized negative judgments of everyone in the forum, of everyone in the world but himself. If anew truly wants people to be curious about what he knows and what he’s bringing here he could improve his communication by not initiating that kind of communication.
It is beyond his conception that he with regularity starts the degeneration of a dialogue into ad homs, insults, tangents, condescension, and pretend-mind reading. It is beyond his conception at this point that his initiating these things might lead to people not taking him seriously especially if he is also mentioning that he knows the way to peace and harmony. If he truly understands humans and has solutions for humans, he would know that initiating those patterns, patterns common to narcissists and cult leaders, people will quite rightly lose interest.
You do it too responses miss that he is generally and habitually the initiator. You do it too arguments miss the oddity of saying I have the solutions to all of humanity’s problems when he seems completely dependent on initiating toxic behavior. If he doesn’t realize that ‘you do it too’ is one of the fundamental ways people avoid peace and harmony, how can he actually know the way to those states. If he can’t manage to avoid talking down to people, insulting them, pretend mind-reading, how could be possibly be the The Mind incarnate? And his mind-reading is as a rule with some exceptions just self-serving and false.
Now, he has a chance to improve his communication. He can avoid that way of approaching people and surely The Mind can manage to effectively communicate without using those tactics. Then I will have no posts to put here showing him initiating that kind of communication any more, and he might even notice that people become more curious when they are not dealing with an asshole, an asshole because he initates this stuff while at the same time claiming to have solved all of humanity’s problems, comparing himself to Jesus, Galileo and Socrates, who he also has to condescend to by calling them little people.
Here is an prime example of how different people use completely meanings for a particular word, and how, if clarification is not sought out and obtained early, conflict and disharmony can all too simply, easily, and quickly ensue.
One of the biggest reasons human beings took so, so long to end up living in an actual Peaceful and Harmonious world is shown and proved here by exactly what this one does. it believes that the definitions and meanings it uses are the ones everyone should be using, never seeks out clarification and clarity, and thus never obtains and gains actual ‘understanding’, and even when asked to clarify, it just will not.
Not that what you said here had absolutely anything at all to do with what I actually said and meant, but just to bring more spark here now, ‘Children cannot do Wrong. Only adult beings can and all of them do do Wrong’, (obviously as long as they did not “die” too soon after they became adults).
This will probably provide even more bewilderment for this lot.
See how when you believe something, you are not open.
The people who kept believing that the sun revolves around the earth also kept believing and claiming that there is no proof that the earth revolves around the sun. Even though had ‘the proof’ all along.
If only it knew.
Thank you for writing and presenting this here “atla”.
LOL “everything”.
Oh well humanity has tried absolutely “everything”. Nothing works. Therefore, human beings now have all the “justification” they need to just keep arguing, fighting, warring with, and killing each other.
After all, “atla” KNOWS that they have “tried everything”.
What do you mean here, exactly?