Imagine believing that pursuing one’s own happiness, in the days when this is being written, does not lead to the unhappiness in others.
LOL Again, another completely Wrong and False interpretation and claim is made.
However, it and they will keep on believing absolutely otherwise.
I’m glad at least ‘you’ find it funny.
Some also find it funny that ‘you’ are so focused on judging what you call ‘empty of topic content’.
Coming from the one who claims to know where God will be found.
But, ‘you’ are doing the very opposite of so-called ‘hanging out’ with God.
This is typical also:
This delays and distracts. No attempt to clarify. A non-statement.
A sentence 1) made meaningless by adding ‘so-called’ and with the citation marks around ‘hanging out’. Atla isn’t doing the opposite of hanging out with God in this sentence. He is doing the opposite of ‘hanging out’ with God. So, the ‘But’ at the beginning of the sentence makes no sense, because that connects the sentence to Atla’s but the citation marks disconnect it. The ‘so called’ further breaks this away since it means that the concept is even further detached from Atla’s sentence.
Of course, anew does not respond to the other guy’s reasoning about the second rule keeping that from happening. Note: I am not saying he is right, but all anew does is keep re-asserting that the first rule leads to unhappiness. The other guy then talks about the second rule. If he’s wrong that that could work, then it can be addressed via reasoning. But anew does not comprehensively respond.
your so-called “first principle” either needs more work or just needs to be removed entirely.
Even though the guy with this principle has said several times that principle two takes care of the problem, anew never integrates this in his response. Perhaps anew is right and principle 2 cannot stop the problems with 1. But it is as if the other guy never said what he said about 2 protecting us from 1. Anew’s example with Trump doesn’t make clear in the slightest that principle 2 wouldn’t work, since he never mentions it.
This lack of context runs through most discussions with anew. The point, again, is not that he is wrong and the other guy is right. The point is that he does not integrate enough what other people say into his own arguments. It is as if they never said much of what they have said. This certainly makes anew’s job much easier, though what the motive is (or is it simply an inability to hold more than one thing in his mind at a time) is unknown.
Even more important, this has nothing to do with his regal-sounding gestures which are status cues. He is always reminding people who has the high status in his belief system. He responded to my post as if it was a support for the other guy’s position. It wasn’t. My post was about his status cues.
So, ‘this one’ now claims that it KNOWS ‘the truth’.
Once more, no attempt to gain clarification nor clairity.
Of course, if one followed the first so-called “principle”, first, like you do, then, obviously, the unhappiness in ‘the world’ will continue on, as it clearly is and has been.
LOL Let ‘us’ make a ‘first rule’, which is doing what is Wrong, in Life, and then because it is Wrong, let ‘us’ make up a ‘second rule’.
The absurdity and stupidity speaks for itself.
Well, when that one keeps asserting what is Wrong in Life, I will keep re-assering the STUPIDITY of continually re-asserting the Wrong.
Who cares.
The what you call “first rule” creates and causes unhappiness in the world, therefore needs to be removed, absolutely.
Why does the so-called “other guy” not discuss the “first rule”, first? Instead of talking about the so-called “second rule”?
Are you REALLY that BLIND also?
Obviously, if adults are seeking out things for their own happiness, then this clearly leads to the unhappiness in others, and thus ultimately within the world.
What do you and that “other guy” want exactly? An unhappy world?
How much ‘comprehensiveness’ does this one want or need here?
Greediness and selfishness, which is what seeking out things for one’s own happiness is and means exactly, is what you two believe is the so-called “first rule or principle” here, then okay.
Ah I get it now.
one only has to say, “That principle two takes care of the problem”, so all is well and good. Therefore, just keep on doing what gives you your own personal happiness. Then all be well and good as well.
Even though the so-called “first principle” is a huge reason what ‘the world’ is so messed up and unhealthy in the days when this is being written.
Even if the “second principle” could stop ALL of the so-called ‘problems’ of the “first principle” WHY have absolutely any “principle” in the world that has or causes ‘problems’ AT ALL?
This is how Truly INSANE these people really were, back when this was being written. LOL This one is literally ‘trying to’ defend the creating of “a principle” that is ‘a problem’ or causes ‘problems’, by creating another rule or “principle” to PROTECT “themselves” from the first rule or “principle”.
Could people become MORE INSANE? Could the world get MORE IDIOTIC and RIDICULOUS? Do not look at REMOVING what is or causes ‘problems’ AT ALL, let ‘us’ just make up more rules and/or “principles” to PROTECT “ourselves”.
WHY move past what is Truly IDIOTIC and ABSURD?
WHY not just get RID OF the STUPIDITY in ‘the world’, first?
LOL Coming from the one who stated that even though I was pointing out and discussing so-called “principle” one, the so-called “other guy” then started talking about so-called “principle” 2. But, again, it is ‘me’ who does not ‘integrate enough’.
Is there a SINGLE THING that ‘I’ have done in these forums that is correct, good, or right?
See, how it HAS TO USE the words “his mind”, although it KNOWS, ABSOLUTELY, that it cannot substantiate ‘this claim’ in absolutely any way AT ALL.
PLEASE “greenfuse” bring up the capital letters ONCE MORE.
it HAS TO ALSO USE the ‘belief’ word here. As though it LAUGHABLY applies.
So, ‘now’ ‘I’ have so-called “status cues”.
I would ask what they are, exactly, but this one does not have the ability to provide clarification and clarity. As can be seen and proved throughout its writings.
This is another one of anew’s useless sentences. He doesn’t seem to understand that when any of us make assertions, we are making claims about what it true, just as when he makes assertions. Basically anew said here ‘greenfuse made an assertion’ but framed it as personal, adding capitilization to KNOWS, for his own reasons.
I’ve realized that anew is one of the least curious people here. He does ask clarifying questions. But once he understands people’s positions, he either approves or in most cases, starts to criticise. He exhibits no curiosity at all about why so many people are critical of how he communicates here or just dismiss him out of hand. His belief is that they have fixed beliefs. This is not mindreading on my part: he has said so. So, he interprets all our reactions in line with his judgments.
When he meets criticism of his ideas, he mind-reads, and this is always negative about the other person. No behavior that indicates an interest in others or why they might disagree with him. He knows already.
Pretty much every judgment he has of others, fits him to a T. He is the one who believes absolutely. He is the one who is not open. He is the one who initiates much of the disharmonious communication in the threads he participates in.
Dehumanization with the use of ‘it.’
Lot’s of capital letters to give his response more strength, despite the capital letters not being able to do this.
It only remains useless while no one enquires as to what it is meaning and referring to, exactly.
LOL Why anyone would even begin to assume this, ‘we’ could wonder.
Now, if anyone is interested what “greenfuse” asserted and claimed what is true is False and Wrong.
But, who here really cares?
Okay.
Another useless statement, grammatically a question. It names a ‘we’ that could wonder. He doesn’t even assert that anyone is wondering.
It doesn’t rise to assertion level. It’s as useful as the vaguer: there may be people who might think this is incorrect. Oh, great. Nice addition.
@anew: What is it with these adult human beings in the days when this is being written and their supernatural ability to KNOW ‘the emotions
Yes, it’s amazing that they share a trait with the entity calling himself anew1 who also tells people what their emotions are. Whether it is ‘The Mind’ or merely Ken/anew1/Age, he behaves, in this way and many others, like the people alive at the time this is being written. How amazing that this entity doesn’t notice this.
LOL Absolutely anyone can look back over ‘my writings’ and see how many more questions I have asked than others, and which were actual legitimate questions asked openly for clarification and clarity’s sake.
And, I even get criticised for asking so many of them.
“greenfuse” does not seem to understand how often it criticises.
Again, what “greefuse” asserts and claims is what is true here, is NOT.
Again, another completely False and Wrong assertion and claim of “greenfuses” here.
Which is EXACTLY what “greenfuse” is doing here.
And, once more, this is EXACTLY what “greenfuse” is doing here.
Why would anyone show an interest when they ALREADY KNOW?
LOL If only “greenfuse” knew. If only it knew.
LOL Coming from ‘this one’ this assertion and claim is absolutely hilarious.
If this is what you really want to believe is absolutely true here, then okay.
Yep, again, ‘I’ am always ‘the one’ at fault here, and who is to blame, for much of the miscommunication and disharmony here.
And, again, absolutely no acknowledgement of what ‘I’ just pointed out.
So, why are you the only one to “see” and believe that this is what is true?
LOL And there is nothing here that is of any use here, at all.
Yes, he wants clarification and clarity. This is not curiosity about what other people may know. It is finding out if he agrees or disagrees. He needs to know what it is, so he can then compare it to what he believes and begin the next phase. This is not curiosity about other people and what they know. It is the first stage in showing them they are wrong.
a) Are you a person who is curious about other people and their ideas?
b) Yes, I ask for clarification a lot. This shows I am a curious and open person.
a) Well, no it does not.
This person, anew, has the most absolute set of beliefs and is not open at all.