Well, that looks like the kind of mantra someone who thinks he’s king might use to self-soothe, but it sure ain’t philosophy.
Anyway, as much fun as it is to point out these rhetorical mishaps on his part, my main purpose in this thread is to catalogue when he enters threads and initiates toxic communication. So, I’ll wait to see what his posts are like in other threads.
Is ‘this’ all you have got here “greenfuse”?
The very reason WHY you human beings were not yet living in Peace and Harmony, together as One, in the days when this was being written, is because of your very examples of just NOT being Honest, Open, and Wanting to change, for the better.
See, once people like you start ACCEPTING, and start TAKING, actual responsibility for your Wrongdoings, and then start doing all you can to change for the actual better, then this is WHEN children eventually started growing up in ‘the world’ ALL of you human beings REALLY and Truly wanted and desired for “yourselves”.
But, as usual, it takes people like ‘you’ “greenfuse” to WANT TO take the ‘first step’. But, this requires something, which, if you remember correctly, is discussed and talked about in the first two steps IN ‘my writings’ that you obviously have NOT yet seen, nor read.
LOL What do you envision ‘that Fact’ could even so-call “self-soothe” exactly?
LOL Do you call the Fact that the earth revolves around the sun that ‘the one’ who was just expressing and sharing ‘that Fact’ was also one who thought it was “king” and that ‘that’ was something that “king” might use to so-call “self-soothe” as well?
If no, then what is the actually difference here, to you, exactly, “greenfuse”?
By the way, OF COURSE ‘it’ sure is NOT ‘philosophy’. Exactly like what ‘you’ are doing here sure is NOT ‘philosophy’ as well.
Is there any other tactic you can think of might want to ‘try to’ use here to achieve ‘your goal’ here?
LOL OBVIOUSLY “greenfuse” has NOT got a single thing that could come close to refuting the Fact that I just said and presented here.
Imagine what ‘your life’ MUST be like if ‘your main purpose’ is to just copy and paste ‘another’s posts’, and so-call ‘catalogue’ them.
Imagine how sad ‘your life’ MUST BE if ‘your main purpose’ is to just ‘try to’ bring another ‘down’.
But, the beauty of what “greenfuse” is doing here is it is actually spreading and sharing ‘my words’ more widely ‘for me’. While, again, producing further living proof for ‘my claims’, ‘for me’.
For example, there is no ‘living proof’ of what those other “believers” were saying and doing to ‘the one’ who was just saying and revealing ‘another Fact’ in Life about how it is NOT the sun that revolves around the earth, but actually is the earth that revolves around the sun instead.
But, what “greenfuse” is doing here is actually providing the ‘living proof’ of exactly HOW “believers” of something will say and do to ‘the one’ who IS just also saying and revealing ‘another Life Truth’, which just happens to go again what the ‘majority’ at ‘that time’ were ‘currently’ believing, absolutely, was ‘the truth’.
So, keep bringing on the ‘living proof’ of what human beings will say and do when they believe, and believe absolutely, something is true “greenfuse”. ‘you’ are, after all, providing proof for a few of ‘my claims’ here. Especially, ‘the one’ about HOW and WHY it took human beings so, so very long to ‘catch up’ to also coming to learn HOW to find, recognise, understand, and KNOW that ‘you’ also HAVE and KNOW the actual irrefutable Truth of things.
How long it actually took ‘those people’ who believed that the sun revolves around the earth to come to realize that ‘their belief’ was False and Wrong ‘we’ have NO ‘living proof’ for. But, here, ‘you’ are providing the ‘living proof’ of just HOW long it will take you to also realise that ‘your belief’ is False and Wrong, and HOW long it will take you to ‘catch up’ and admit and acknowledge this.
But, as I already said and pointed out some people go to “their graves” still HOLDING ONTO and MAINTAINING their False and Wrong beliefs, without ever coming to recognise and realise the actual True Fact/s, like others around them already HAD.
And so it continues with generalized ad homs (ad hominem arguments, either implicit or explicit)
anew: One reason why so many anomalies exist here, and the actual Truth takes so long to come to be known, is that people express their presumptions and beliefs as though they are what actually exist/ed, as you exampled just now.
you said and wrote the words “early cosmos”, as though there was an early cosmos.
Also, and by the way, what will be understood is the actual Truth does not demand any such thing as a theory of “deep time”.
It continues in similar form in the rest of the post. He presents a hypothesis about why the other person is wrong and what mental process leads to him being wrong, instead of justfiying his position that the other person is wrong or justifying what he thinks is right. In a philosophy forum of all places, as anew is wont to write.
And here we have a different, yet also common type of thread interruption. Anew indicates he has the solutions to all human problems and invites a discussion…in someone else’s thread. So, it’s an invitation to hijack with anew. He could, of course, make this offer in the OP of his own thread. So, in response to Geoff in that thread he makes many proclamations, does some ad hom type mind reading. Then has the full-on hijack post, which is more or less an advertisment. No justification of his positions. No justifications for why Geoff is wrong where anew says he is. In a philosophy forum of all places…
anew: For anyone who is interested and curious as to ‘the solution’ of HOW people can find ‘the answers’ to all of so-called ‘Life’s problems’, and ‘Life’s mysteries’, by “themselves” and almost immediately, and KNOW that they have the True and Right answers, then, and as always, let ‘us’ have a Truly open and honest, logically reasoned peaceful discussion.
Geoff notes that it sound like theology. Actually theology, at least when it is done well, has more justification than what happens in anew’s posts if you interact with them. But Geoff is on the right track in his sense there.
anew: Can I clarify with you what part, exactly, made you “smell like it is far too much like theology”, to you, exactly?
After all, there was not a word about theology nor even one that implied anything theological.
Here’s what anew is missing.
The “Esoteric Guru” Initiation Game
Notice the dynamic Anew sets up:
“I wait for those who are curious… you will ask the necessary questions… I have learned there is NO use in saying things if readers are not interested.”
This is the classic structure of esoteric religious initiation (“Knock and the door shall be opened”). Instead of just stating their thesis - as one does in a philosophy forum - Anew says he has all the answers and awaits true seekers. It establishes a hierarchy: Anew is the enlightened keeper of truth, and everyone else is an uninitiated seeker. That dynamic fits theological contexts and issues.
Philosophy deals with potentially fallible, step-by-step, conditional models. Theology promises total, absolute salvation, founded on absolute truths.
Anew promises that people can find the answers to “ALL of so-called ‘Life’s problems’” and “almost immediately KNOW that they have the True and Right answers.” That is a promise of divine revelation, not logical reasoning.
That one will almost immediately find the answers to all of Life’s mysteries, right there, alone, the smell of theology is very strong.
One very large source of the smell is formatting:
The capitalizations and citations marks:‘the solution’ ‘the answers’ ‘Life’s problems’ ‘True and Right’ ‘i’ ‘you’ ‘we’
These are linguistic tricks often seen in pseudo-spiritual and messianic writing to signal that everyday words are being used in a “higher, divine” sense or carry non-ordinary metaphysical implications.
Then we have the Eschatological Promise (Grand Unified Theory & World Peace) - saying he has solved the G.U.T.O.E. (Grand Unified Theory of Everything) and hold the key to imminent World Peace is pure prophecy. It’s the secular equivalent of announcing the second coming or the dawn of the Kingdom of Heaven. Saying it doesn’t mean he has. It also doesn’t mean he hasn’t. But it’s odd he can’t recognize how his whole approach is theological.
In fact we could say he is doing theology without God. But lo, he does God, just not in that post.
Just imagine the discussion swamp a discussion of all of that could make in a thread not on that topic.
But should there be any readers you can judge for yourselves. Here are some of the key parts smelling of theology:
anew: you are probably not yet aware, but I wait for those who are curious.
If you would like any answers or solutions, then as I suggest previously, the more specific the question, the more specific the answer can and will be.
Again, the solution is in ‘the answer’ to the question, ‘How can we find the answers to all of our problems in Life?’
Now, if anyone would like to know the answer and/or solution, then they will ask the necessary questions to obtain enough clarification and clarity. I have learned that there is NO use in saying and writing things if ‘the readers’ are not really that interested and curious to learn more or anew.
Also, why did you believe that ‘I’ am not willing to explain the solution?you are free to ‘assume’ this.
By the way, the G.U.T.O.E. has also already been achieved.
The knowledge of HOW World Peace is achievable and HOW ‘we’ will be moving towards it shortly is, by the way, written in conjunction with the G.U.T.O.E. —what do you think?
and
anew: For anyone who is interested and curious as to ‘the solution’ of HOW people can find ‘the answers’ to all of so-called ‘Life’s problems’, and ‘Life’s mysteries’, by “themselves” and almost immediately, and KNOW that they have the True and Right answers, then, and as always, let ‘us’ have a Truly open and honest, logically reasoned peaceful discussion.
It is as if anew cannot get a realistic perspective on himself. And there is nothing wrong with doing theology, but unless it framed in a philosopical, rather than proclamatory, from on high hierarchical way, which is the pattern with anew, it is problematic in a philosophy forum. And since anyone disagreeing with his ideas or pointing out objections will get assessed with ad homs, mind-reading and insults, also from on high, it’s more cult leader communication than philosophical communication.
So, ‘I’ make observations and “greenfuse” believes and claims it is not just an argument but it is a ‘ad hominem argument’ of all things.
LOL So, when ‘the one’ who already KNEW that the earth revolves around the sun was a Fact, because it had already obtained the proof, if ‘that one’ explained why people like “greenfuse” were Wrong in their absolute belief that the sun revolves around the earth, then those like “greenfuse” would have also laughably ‘tried to’ claim things like ‘that one’ presents a hypothesis about why the other person is wrong.
LOL The ‘other person’ is Wrong because the proof demonstrates that ‘they’ are Wrong, WHY they are Wrong, and HOW they are Wrong.
How many times is “greenfuse” going to keep making a fool of “itself” here.
Once more, NO one has yet asked me to justify my position.
Once more, also, I KNOW what is True, Right, Accurate, and Correct here, and thus I do NOT ‘think’ what you said and claimed at all. When and if you realise and understand, fully, the difference between ‘think’ and ‘know’, then you might start expressing things differently.
“greenfuse” here expresses more Falsehoods, which helped in leading people further astray.
But, this is the tactic of what people like “greenfuse” would use.
Does it really?
If so, then ‘the one’ when trying to express ‘the truth’ that they also KNEW about how it was actually not the case that sun revolved around the earth and was, in fact, the earth that revolved around the sun, instead, must have, well, according to “greenfuse” anyway, also fitted theological contexts and issues as well. After all, what ‘that one’ was doing was establishing hierarchy too. ‘That one’ being the enlightened keeper of truth, and everyone else an uninitiated seeker.
Once more, “greenfuse” spreads another Falsehood.
See, people who cannot refute proof resort to ad hom attacks, which this thread has turned out to be what the motive for it was from the outset.
As absolutely could find ‘I’ have NEVER EVER promised absolutely anything here.
Again, so ‘the one’ who was just trying to express the truth that the earth revolved around the sun and not the other way around, which everyone believed was the absolute truth, then, with “greenfuse’s” logic, ‘smelt of theology’ and ‘the smell’ was very strong.
So, “greenfuse” does not just provide ‘living proof’ of what happens to one when they believe and believe absolutely, and of ‘confirmation bias’ that follows on from that distorted kind of thinking, projection, but now also of APE-thinking in its strongest form.
LOL, LOL, LOL
“greenfuse” cannot even get ‘this’ Correct and Right.
LOL How many times are you going to share and spread Falsehoods here, “greenfuse”?
WHAT even made you jump to what you concluded here, and WHY do you even believe that your interpretation was even right?
WHY do you believe, absolutely, that when one already has the facts and the proof that ‘that’ is so-called ‘pure prophecy’?
But, WHAT the ‘second coming’ is, and HOW it occurs, is already KNOWN, just like the ‘dawn of the Kingdom of Heaven’ is also already KNOWN. And, which, by the way, cannot be refuted. Again, this is because the proof and facts have already been obtained.
LOL Quite a fair bit of ‘my approach’ ‘you’ have assessed and diagnosed is completely and utterly False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and/or Incorrect. Just in case you were interested and/or wondering.
LOL If only ‘you’ KNEW “greenfuse”.
Why do ‘we’ not find out, and ‘see’ what actually happens and occurs?
And, ONCE MORE, “greenfuse” actually believes, absolutely, that what you people assume, interpret, or infer when you read others’ writings means, absolutely, that your own assumption/s, interpretation/s, or inference/s are the absolute true and right ones, only.
LOL 'greenfuse" does NOT seek out clarification, for clarity, as this would interfere with its own interpretations and inferences, which are what it wants to hold onto dearly and believe are the truth of things.
As can be very clearly seen and proved by “greenfuse’s” own writings here.
See how, AGAIN, “greenfuse” really actually believes that its own interpretations and presumptions, in Life, are the one and only true and right ones. And, even if they involve others, if the others inform “greenfuse” that ‘your pre/assumptions and beliefs about me’ are Wrong, Inaccurate, and/or Incorrect, “greenfuse” will then claim that ‘the other’ has an unrealistic perspective of “themself”.
Showing HOW “greenfuse” still has not yet recognised and realised how strong its ‘superiority complex’ really is, exactly.
Again, the projection has, again, gone completely unnoticed.
Once again, “greenfuse” adds Falsehoods in the hope that they will somehow help it in its True intention here.
Here we can see anew’s confusion about what refuting actually entails. He asserts a lot of things without any justification or argument and calls this a refutation. Here are his texts with substance in the thread in question:
anew: The Universe is alone. Always has been, always is, and always will be.
The Universe being alone has always been moving in that It is always in constant-change. And,
Why this One alone Universe exists is obvious when ‘you’ have also discovered, or learned and understood, how to look at and see things properly, Correctly, or exactly as they are.
The reason (why) the Universe, or ‘I’ thy Self exist, is so that ‘I’ can bear witness to the beauty ‘I’ am creating, or to the beauty of Creation, Itself, as well.
anew: But the premises are False and Wrong. As the Universe is one Being, standing alone. And, the reason (why) It exists has already been explained.
anew: The word ‘alone’ means or refers to ‘one’ only. Again, the Fact that there is and could only be One Universe only means that It is alone.
Also, The Fact that it can also be said and argued that there is, literally, only the One only Universe, which is not actually ‘separated’ at all, and thus this means that there is NO united/unity neither, because there is NO actual ‘other thing’ than the Universe, Itself. In other words, ALL of the ‘things’ that are perceived to be separate or apart from the Universe are, in fact, NOT in actuality but only in perception or thought only.
But, one needs to go ‘much deeper’, as it is sometimes said, to understand this fully.
anew: I will have to change this obviously.
There is nothing that could refute the One Universe existing alone.
But, everyone is obviously absolutely free to ‘try to’.
And, as always, I wait for a discussion.
What do we have here? A lot of assertions. There is no evidence. There is no argument. There is no deduction, induction, abduction. Just proclamations.
But how does anew view this:
anew: And, the fact that you have not even attempted to counter or refute what I have said and shown that refuted your claims, reveals far more here than you would really like.
He thinks he refuted something. He did express his position. He did not support his position. He did not criticize her position. He simply proclaimed what he thought is the truth.
After a decade at least in philosophy forums he still conflates proclamations of the truth without justification with refutations.
This is confused at a basic level. A very basic level.
Have you forgotten who - (or what) - you are dealing with?
We must never forget that “a new one” has implied that he is simply a “channel” for an "ancient (incorporeal?) entity" → who claims to have helped inspire the writing of the Bible.
Indeed, the channeled entity made ^^^that^^^ implication quite clear in a post “it” made almost a decade ago while writing under the moniker of “ken” in the PN forum.
For those who were unaware of that particular fact, “ken” (aka, “Age” / aka, “a new one”) wrote the following…
(correction, had the following words from an incorporeal entity channeled through him)
…back in 2017:
"…This impatience comes out and through the one, which I am using, who is writing this. This is a bit like how the ones, I used who wrote the bible, misinterpreted what I was actually trans and in spiring to them, which obviously has caused a lot of confusion. Now I found another human being who I can use to share things…"
What I want to know is what this clueless, insulting, lying, gaslighting, channeled entity does with all of the hapless humans after it is done using them for the purpose of…
“…trans and in spiring…”
…information to the rest of us?
In other words, what I am asking is → What does the entity do with them after it finds…
“…another human being…"
…who it can then use to share things???
I guess what I am getting at is what “exactly” has the channeled entity done with “ken” and “Age”…
…now that it has found “a new one” for the purpose of sharing things* (information?) with what it calls - “you humans”?
*(By “sharing things,” I am of course referring to things like what the channeled entity attempted to share with us in the Bible which, apparently, was information that we “misinterpreted.”)
Me and Atla already figured out a long time ago that…
…based on everything that “ken,” “Age,” and now “a new one” has posted over the years,…
…it would appear as if this channeled entity is, in fact, “GOD” speaking to us in the proverbial (albeit borrowed) flesh (“…in the days when this is being written…”).
Good lord, one would think that the Creator and Master of - the entire Universe - would not only be a little better at figuring out how to communicate with “its” own creation,…
…but, more importantly, would have better things to do than to spend years…
(minute-by-minute, hour-by-hour, day-by-day, week-by-week, month-by-month)
…presenting itself to the world…
(make that presenting itself to a tiny smattering of uninterested armchair philosophers)
…as a clueless, repulsive, lying, insulting, gaslighting troll who gets a kick out of constantly annoying people on some obscure Internet forum that hardly anyone pays any attention to. 
A n y w a y, in closing,…
…again, I present to you → :::“GOD”::: → the Creator of all of reality - as seen channeled through a trio of our most beloved trolls - “ken,” “Age,” and “a new one”:
(
- I’ll be here all week, folks. Do try the veal, and don’t forget to tip the waitresses - 
)
Here we can see “greenfuse’s” utter confusion and False claims.
“greenfuse” asserts a lot of things without any justification or argument and calls them lots of False things.
Once again, thank you for repeating ‘my words’ here.
Again, I do not do ‘evidence’ for the reason I have already explained. And, if these people were intelligent enough, they would not also use ‘evidence’. See, when they stopped, this is when they could see what the actual Truth really is, exactly.
Is there some law that says I HAVE TO present one?
Again, I wait, patiently, for those with enough interest and curiosity to reveal things.
Again, since I already have the irrefutable proof and facts, I can make the proclamations confidently.
Let ‘us’ take a look at how “greenfuse” views how I view this. Now, of course, “greenfuse” will believe, absolutely, that its own personal view here will be the absolute true, right, accurate, correct, and unmistakable view only.
Once more, considering “greenfuse” is absolutely so BLIND and DEAF here, I do NOT ‘think’ this.
Once more, NO one has asked me to.
Again, what I am showing here is one of the reasons WHY ‘these people’ took so, so very long to ‘catch up’ in learning HOW to see and recognise the actual Truths in Life. ‘These people’ here would literally refuse to be curious about particular things when what they were believing and presuming was in opposition to or contradicted them. If something, on first glance, appeared to be False, Wrong, or impossible, based on nothing but their own assumptions, which were themselves based upon nothing at all other but their own personal relatively tiny Past Experiences, then NOTHING said would pique their interest nor reignite their curiosity. ‘They’ were, literally, STUCK in their own narrative, which was based on their own personal assumptions and beliefs, only.
See, only when ‘these people’ started to begin to question their own made up assumptions and beliefs, did ‘that world’ really begin to change for the better and into ‘this world’, which even they ALL Truly wanted and wished they were living in.
Once more, because “greenfuse” is proving HOW it is so utterly CLOSED and thus STUPID. I NEVER ‘thought’ ‘it’ is the truth. Once more, I KNOW ‘it’ is the Truth. Which again, is irrefutable.
One day, “greenfuse” MIGHT let go of its beliefs and presumptions here and start ‘looking at’ what the actual Truth REALLY IS here.
Once again, “greenfuse” ‘tries to’ spread another Falsehood.
And, once more, “greenfuse” is ‘the one’ conflating things here. But, this is just because it cannot let go of its beliefs and presumptions it has from the outset, all those years ago.
“greenfuse” is still so lost and confused it still is unable to KNOW the answer to the question ‘Who am ‘I’?’ and have it universally accepted.
In fact, “greenfuse” is still so lost and confused it still does not yet KNOW;
‘They’ just do not yet KNOW how they were being used and manipulated here, obviously.
Did “greenfuse” ever REALLY KNOW?
And, ALL of the other writings, which, when combined and ‘looked at’ OPENLY, verify HOW to create and live in Peace and Harmony forever.
Oh, and do not forget ‘I’ am the same One within ALL of ‘you’ human beings, guiding and showing ‘you’ ALL the Right and True way in Life.
you have forgotten all of the other so-called ‘monikers’. But, then again, ‘you’ may not even have been made aware of them yet.
Have you ever ONCE considered just asking a clarifying question from a Truly open perspective, only?
Once ‘you’ have been trans-formed into ‘the beings’ that you ALL really want to be, and were all born naturally anyway, then the transformation of ‘the way of life’ and ‘this world’ really begins.
But it is ‘you’ human beings who get to share ‘the Knowlege’ for Me. How do you think ALL of the knowledge that you already have came from, exactly?
Once the Right one is found, then the sharing and in-forming just happens and occurs anyway.
The Right information is to ‘in-form’ and ‘trans-form’ you people into being ‘the ones’ you really want to be, so that then life is trans-formed into ‘the one’ that you Truly want and desire. Once more, the life and world that ‘you’ ALL want will be done on earth, as it is in Heaven.
The ‘afterlife’ is just what happens to life, or the world, after ‘this war-torn, greedy, pollution-riddled world’ ends and is completely dead and gone. Then ‘the world’ trans-form to the Right and True world you ALL have wanted and desire since birth. The trans-formation happens and begins when adults start accepting and taking True and full responsibility.
The trans-formation happens and occurs when the Right ‘in-formation’ is being shared and spread with-in ‘you’ human being. The Right in-formation that forms ‘you’ to become thy True Self comes from the Spirit with-in, also known as ‘I’, who, literally, in-spiring ‘you’ ALL to KNOW and DO what is Right and True in Life.
The ‘forming’ happens with and in ‘you’, from the Right in-formation, which is brought to ‘you’ the Guider and Teacher with-in, also known as in-Tuition.
And, as always, ‘I’ have far, far more proof and facts that back up and support all of this irrefutably. That is; if and when anyone becomes interested and curious enough.
Anyway, ‘you’ human beings share ‘My messages’ for Me, through the information ‘I’ provide in written and spoken word.
Were ‘you’ not yet aware that ‘they’ are just names, labels, and words placed upon A human being and are NOT ‘the human being’, itself.
Exactly like ALL of ‘you’, human beings, place ‘upon you’ but which are NOT who nor what ‘you’ REALLY ARE.
Again, as well as the many other books and writings, as well as many of those other words ‘you’ have within ‘you’.
And, are ‘you’ under some sort of illusion that ‘you’ human beings have NOT and do NOT misinterpret words written, and spoken, and even the ones within?
But, ‘I’, who goes by MANY, MANY other names, words, and labels have been speaking ‘to you’ ever since ‘you’ human beings evolved into being created, and NOT just in the days when this is being written, obviously.
How else do you people think you come to learn, understand, and KNOW what is True and Right in Life?
Do you think you individually each KNOW ‘this’ without the help from any one/thing else?
If you did, then this would put you above others. Which obviously NO one is.
Every one of ‘you’ human beings receives the True and Right knowledge and information. Some, however and obviously, are just more OPEN than others are. But, NO one is better nor worse than other, nor less than nor more than any other.
‘I’ am speaking. Are ‘you’ listening?
WHY do ‘you’ imagine ‘you’ human beings are, still, trying to figure and work out what the actual Truth is and what is the Right thing to do, when what is Right and True is ALL here laid out directly before ‘you’.
WHY do ‘you’ people consistently keep ‘trying to’ blame something else for ‘your choice’ to NOT listen and hear?
you ALL have ‘free will’. you were ALL born listening and hearing. But, as adults, ‘you’ have ALL chosen to NOT listen and NOT hear; ‘you’ ALL prefer ‘your own personal and individual paths’ in Life.
Which, again, ‘you’ are ALL completely and utterly FREE to choose to follow, be led by, and to go ‘down’.
When eternal things like above that some people are controlled by are of absolutely NO concern AT ALL.
Yet here are those same self-proclaimed “uninterested armchair philosophers” after all of these years still talking ‘about Me’. The only difference, ‘currently’, in the days when this is being written, ‘these people’ are talking ‘to Me’ in discussion format, which is being written down and stored so that ‘people’ forevermore can ‘look back on it’ and ‘see’ what exactly took place and happened.
Again, the attempts at attacking and insulting continue.
With nothing presented that proves that ‘I’ am lying anywhere, nor for any of the other False accusations and claims either.
Imagine being so absolutely afraid and scared that the very things that you presumed and believed absolutely were the truth that you had nothing better to do but to resort to reacting in ‘the ways’ these adult human beings are showing and revealing here, in the days when this was being written.
That I actually missed. Given the past tense ‘in the days when this was written’ I would have placed the entity with future origins, lol. Though of course it is timeless and originless, given the eternal universe, naturally.
I believe we are still dealing with Ken’s body being used. But it likes to change its name everyone now and then. And sadly it is toxic for the carrier to have this kind of thought pattern. The entity has absolutely no interest in Ken learning to have warm, real, intimate contacts with other people. It offers the secondary gains of, well, all that the entity claims to be, which is utterly hollow compared to having a friend. It’s damned him to its fantasy and endless not managing to convince anyone of anything and endless conflict.
And how far down it has come since it got people to write the Bible.
Anew going ad hom, condescening and insulting.
And, thanks to “greenfuse” once more what ‘we’ can clearly see is how Right and True these ‘observations’ were.
And, what ‘we’ can also see here is, there is not a single shred of ad hom, condescension, an insult , nor any judgement absolutely anywhere. Just plain old objective observation only.
Good old anew is guessing away, but the really funny thing is how little he is accepted for what he claims to be. And after an eternity, he still manages to have nearly every conversation lead to conflict or people ignoring him. After an eternity he cannot track context in conversations. After an eternity he doesn’t have a handle on non-literal language and also is mistaken about what he considers literal language. After an eternity he does not understand what refuting means. After an eternity of relating to people, he still hasn’t learned that condescension, ad hom, insults, pretend mind-reading are poor communication tools.
But, given there is an eternity ahead of us, perhaps Ken will learn eventually and let go of this entity. The entity however, needs to be accepted back in what it is just a small part of. It can’t really heal on it’s own, or learn, because it is just a small part of something that judged it. Then it either left that larger whole or was cast off to repeat the same mistakes until that larger entity takes it back.
After an eternity of learning this Mind doesn’t understand the following:
anew: But they do not. Why did you believe or presume they did?
She does not think they do. In fact she is critical of those who think that. All this time learning but still this Mind, not Ken, but the Mind, is a literalist.
Talk about ‘guessing’, look at how many guesses “greenfuse” has here.
Given what “greenfuse” is still doing here, perhaps “iwannaplato” has still not yet learned.
Wow, the ‘entity’ known here as “greenfuse”, which used to call “itself” “iwannaplato”, among others, ‘now’ believes it can diagnose and know others.
And, all it has before it are printed words on a screen alone. Talk about an ‘entity’ that demonstrates a great example of an entity with a ‘superiority complex’.
So, “she”, supposedly, does NOT think ‘they do’ but, laughably, you claim, “she” is critical of those that ‘think’ they do’.
If “she” is critical of those who think they do ‘automatically deserve more respect’, then why do ‘you’ claim that “she” does not think they do, ‘automatically deserve more respect’, exactly?
Once again, it can NEVER be “iwannaplato” and “greenfuse” who misread, misinterpreted, misunderstood, nor mislearn here. To ‘this one’ it is always ‘the other’.
But this is what happens with the “inferencist”.
anew: Now, why do ‘you’ disrespect people until they have done something that earns ‘your respect’?
The ironic thing here is that this is precisely what anew is like. He disrespects people until they show they are curious and open, despite how he judges everyone at the time this is being written. He says we are all abusive of children and in cults. He doesn’t arrive at this conclusion from interaction. That is how he sees people at this time in history and includes everyone here in this blanket disrespect. If you behaved correctly, in response to his posts, and showed the traits he expects one to have, he might start to respect you, but his default position is that everyone is in a cult and abuses children.
And yet in another thread he is asking others why they think one needs to earn their respect, when he could just look at his own attitudes and behavior and see for himself where he got this lack of respect as base attitude.
Now, why do ‘you’ disrespect people until they have done something that earns ‘your respect’?
Note also that anew attributed disrespect to pseudoai’s position. Pseudoai didn’t say anything about disrespect. He said you have to earn respect.
In anew’s binary mind this means that pseudoai disrespects people who have not earned his respect. He can’t imagine that he could neither respect nor disrespect them. That a neutral state is possible. That each of those attitudes arise after experiecing certain things, for example.
So, “greenfuse” wants to make ANOTHER accusation and claim here ‘about me’.
Are you going to produce the proof that I have disrespected anyone here?
If yes, then GREAT, ‘we’ will finally have something to ‘look at’ and ‘see’.
But, and again, if no, then why not?
Once more, ‘this one’ alludes to “something” but never ever directly points out and says what ‘it’ is, exactly nor where or when ‘it’ was supposed to have taken place.
I have NEVER EVER said that.
What I have said is close, but NOT close enough, “greenfuse”. Once again, “greenfuse’s” reading comprehension skill has failed it miserably.
Now, if you would like to read what I have actually written and claimed, and then try again, we’ will see if, instead of you spreading another falsehood, you speak, write, and reveal the actual Truth this time.
So, if ‘I’, supposedly and allegedly, did not arrive at this conclusion from interaction, then how, exactly, did ‘I’ arrive at this conclusion, “greenfuse”?
LOL ‘you’ are so lost and confused here, “greenfuse”, what you say, write, and claim here is another False assumption and claim of yours, which you believe ‘your conclusion’ is the truth.
Even what ‘you’ say and claim here is False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and Incorrect.
One day “greenfuse” ‘you’ MIGHT get something here Right, Accurate, and Correct.
By the way, and contrary to what you believe to be the ABSOLUTE truth here, ‘I’ have NOT disrespected ANY one.
WELL, ‘they’ are ‘the ones’ who CLAIM ‘respect is earned’. NOT ‘me’.
Because of “greenfuse’s” very obvious prejudices here, OF COURSE “greenfuse” would have previously presumed and believed, absolutely, that ‘I’ have a ‘lack of respect’. Although ALL of my writings show and prove otherwise.
Which, VERY OBVIOUSLY, implies ‘the other’ does NOT get respect UNTIL ‘they’ have ‘earned respect’.
And, VERY CLEARLY, I also asked what their ‘respect is earned’ remarks and claims refer to, EXACTLY. So, until that is provided, what is implied by the ‘respect is earned’ position, remains.
LOL “greenfuse” still believes, ABSOLUTELY, that ‘things’, like human beings, have “their own minds”.
LOL What else could one do, other than NOT respect another, UNTIL ‘they’ have ‘earned respect’?
Please explain to the readers here what else could one do “greenfuse”?
‘your claim’ that ‘I’ ‘can’t’ do what ‘you’ claim here is OBVIOUSLY False.
‘you’ OBVIOUSLY FAILED to think about and recognise that if one is waiting for ‘respect to be earned’, then they are NOT respecting the other human being, which, in and of itself, IS disrespecting them.
Imagine not respecting a newborn human being UNTIL ‘they’ have ‘earned respect’.
NOT respecting human beings until ‘they’ have ‘earned respect’ IS being VERY disrespectful to not just that individual human being but also to the species known as the ‘human’ species, collectively.
Imagine going through Life that ‘you’ believe that ‘you’ are so superior, and being so obnoxious, that ‘you’ are waiting until ‘others’ show you that ‘they’ have ‘earned your respect’, first.
