How can we strenghten the free will of people?

i have to share my amusement.

how can WE strengthen the free will of OTHERS ?

when you are done with this issue of paramount import, i have a few more :

science :
how can we draw the quadrature of the circle ?
how can we measure the speed of a nuclear particle with a given mass ?

everyday life :
how can we drive to yesterday’s film ?
how can we get invited on dates for being weird and creepy ?

travelling :
how can we fly by missing the plane ?

politics :
how can we win the election by getting fewer votes (come to think about it, someone did pull this one off)

cooking :
how to make omlett without breaking eggs ?

exploration :
how to discover new places nobody has seen before by watching cnn ?

philosophy
how to ask questions by randomly putting words in a sentence ?

(i think i will write a bot to flood this forum with this type of questions, see what happens)

All the others were fine, but this is just a stupid question and you know it

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When you say that most people don’t deserve free will, you are kinda saying that you are different from them… :unamused: :unamused: :unamused: :unamused:

i am different form them :unamused:

Samkhya:

Focus on that passage from Nietzsche above.

Freewill does not exist. Period. Metaphysics and ontology is bullshit, they don’t exist either. The three have progressed hand-in-hand through the ages via the development of language and intellect. The concept of freewill was introduced as a rhetorical device for subordinating the stronger types by blame and responsibility. In fact, “philosophy” is a method of the weaker type, now that I mention it. It is an inferior form of power which only stalls physical strength. In the end it is the deed that endures…not the words and “philosophies.”

One could be made to feel guilty if they believed they were responsible. The attempt to make another feel guilty is a form of resentment…a product of the weaker type.

A few things that might alarm you about children and parents:

The child to the parent is like a pet. The parent, whom is dying, gets to play God for a brief moment. The parent, envious of fate, gets revenge by creating another life…as if the parent were at war with mortality.

“I live through my child,” says the parent…yet the child dies like the parent. The parent knows this, but still it creates life in a futile attempt to gain authority over fate.

The parent wants to control fate, but cannot, so instead the parent finds relief in the chance to play God by dictating the life of its child.

Parents don’t “love” their children…they envy them. The child becomes a pet, a project, a little experiment…the parents chance to control.

Of course my idea here requires a deeper explaination which I would be willing to elaborate upon, had I more time. I am currently on an island at a library with a rather long waiting list for this computer. In the near future, perhaps, we can discuss this further. For now I will tell you this: nothing is what it seems regarding this issue. Don’t ask a “parent” about any of this because you will not get the truth. The ramifications of my theory reach far beyond any contemporary psychology or “family values” or any other such bullshit. There are darker shades which many do not see.

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Detrop

Sh*t detrop; does this mean you have finally divorced Sartre? Did you get half of his shit?

Good to see you again, in any case. :slight_smile:

Regards,

James

p.s. this is a metaphysical statement too.

Don’t go there. He’s a little bit country…I’m a little bit rock-n-roll.

No its not. Its a bunch of pixels on the screen and nothing more.

Hahaha “Sweet home Alabama…” Ahem.

How many country musicians you know write all their best stuff whilst tripping on LSD? On the other hand, maybe I’m just naive… :slight_smile:

Regards,

James

  1. country guys write all the best stuff on tv while high on manure and other bullshit. i’d take lsd any day.

  2. who cares if they do exist or they dont exist detrop ? just by my talking about them they do exist. i am thus the first spring of existance and therefore god himself. sartre still rocks ;p

isn’t the very idea of free will in children antithetical to the idea of trying to direct their character in one way or another?
on the other hand, it’s going to be directed by environment anyway. but then there is a distinction between trying to impose your will on their actions and teaching by example. and if there’s anything adults are good at, it’s think before acting. i guess everyone learns over time to think before they act. and in this dangerous world parents have to make short-cuts in the process with spankings and harsh tones, to keep children from being run-over by the mechanical monsters we build, from stabbing themselves with the sharp instruments we make, from getting lost in a disjointed community with sociopaths (of our creation) lurking around every corner.

of all the things to teach them, why focus on that necessary evil that comes closest to hampering their free spirit? is this logic akin to that of homeopathic medicine?

if free will exists, why does it require anything?

you could make an argument that if free will exists, then survival, or success, requires that it be tempered with calm forethought - but that doesn’t mean not teaching those things will lessen free will per se (except for the incidental point that if you get hit by a bus you won’t have free anything).

anyway, my belief is that children should (in addition to being taught by example) be given as much freedom as reasonably possible.

and that’s certaintly square with nurturing free will in children.

not that it’s something that has to be taught.