How do we help people like this?

Philosophy Forums Society, Government, and Economics
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Suspect’s YouTube video, proof of premeditation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQUW3Km01BM

It may be a small percentage who actually resort to mass killing, but there are definitely others out there like this guy. We have/have had guys on ILP whose views of women aren’t far off. In the video, the suspect (now deceased) says how much he wanted the love of the beautiful women around him and then calls these same women sluts because they were sexy and dated other guys. So it made sense to him that people deserved to die for his suffering. He calls himself a “supreme gentleman” and a “true alpha male.” He takes on this kind of evil mastermind persona in his video, laughing evilly like they do in the movies. Apparently he was the son of an assistant director of the Hunger Games movies. He was apparently financially well-off - he’s got a nice BMW and a $300 pair of sunglasses. So he killed a few random people and now he’s dead at 22.

Basically, I hope anyone who feels anything similar to this guy watches his YouTube videos and realizes that that’s who they resemble. Maybe someone will decide to be better than that.

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I don’t think “we” can help. Only those around such a person can. We all need to pay attention to those around us in order to stop tragedy. But, its not easy considering how our brains are socially trained. It would require stepping over lines. Interfering on a private issue, turning in loved ones/friends, getting very personal, etc…
All are social taboos to a point.

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I think you have answered your own question.
A boy brought up as a spoilt brat, with nothing refused him, finds out that you can’t just buy women. Sadly everything around him says you can - media, games, film… The whole culture promotes a range of incompatible roles for women, whilst the rest asserts that you can buy anything you want. It also promotes the idea of romantic love. Along with that there is the valorisation of violence at every level of society, with no greater virtues than self determination in a dog-eat-dog world.

Unless children like this boy are not taken aside and taught with care and attention how to interpret the world with nuance and a critical eye, such children are doomed to mimic the world around them are follow like the apes that we all are the behaviours that they witness.

Confucius says; If you give out bananas, you get monkeys.

Where do we get boys like this…

It’s a no brainer.

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Public mass shooters are idiots. It’s almost like they want to get caught in the end of doing things.

I’ve never really understood the mental perception or process of this. One thing is just for sure is that they want their killings to be known publicly all around for some sort of fame appeal.

There are so many more other ways to enact one’s retribution and revenge against society in general that doesn’t require getting caught by law enforcement.

Serial killers for instance are known to have their fun for fifteen years at a time under the radar before getting caught.

Then you have the more notorious ones that never get caught at all because they’re that good…

How do you help people like this? (Laughs) You can’t.

Unless you were to supply this poor boy with endless amounts of skirts anyways. That probably would have been enough to pacify him, but I don’t think anybody especially our female friends would be willing to do that which is exactly what pushed our poor boy over the edge in the first place.

Suffice it to say, if I were to ever be pushed over the edge I would want to make sure that I never got caught for as long as possible to saver all the pleasure and enjoyment of killing. I know, this makes me a horrible person. At least I am honest.

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How would you help out an individual like this? :slight_smile:

Let’s hear it.

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Au contraire. You can always buy a woman. :eusa-naughty: It all revolves around price terms and their risk of exposure.

Once high enough they’ll never say no.

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This modern society of ours collectively just speaks volumes of isolation, alienation, and extreme depravity of the human psyche.

Rest assured there will be plenty of examples like this on the rise as time progresses.

I think this concludes our conversation here, doesn’t it?

Don’t act surprised either by these acts. When you demand to have a society like this one that we have currently this is one of its many inevitable side effects.

Here’s your social progress for all the world to see. Observe and take pride in its creation. Don’t try to deny it by some form of pretentious act of being surprised.

This is the world you have all built.

Look with wonder at the splendor that is this socially engineered paradigm like I always do.

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It’s a bullshit video guys, straight out of Hollywood.

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And you call spree shooters “idiots”.

Pan calling kettle black.

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I know this may seem controversial, but kids like that should be beaten up by other kids until they learn they’re not the king of everything. I have to say, this kid seems like a total narcissist and like a spoiled brat. He doesn’t seem like he got picked on, or singled out, or harassed. He doesn’t mention those things. He’s literally pissed off because he can’t get laid. The worst thing is that he probably can’t get laid because he’s so pissed off. I agree with the above poster who says you can’t buy sex. I mean, you can get it from a hooker but that’s not what you really want. Most young guys don’t realize that getting a fresh, young, attractive, intelligent woman to fall all over you is one of the hardest things to do. They just think if they act cool then they’re entitled to pussy from whatever hottie they want. Doesn’t work that way.

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Yes, I said you can’t buy women. Any fool can buy a sex “act”, and any number of other things. But sharing an authentic emotional experience is asking for something which is inalienable.
Offering money for a person gets you exactly as “act”, a performance which is no more satisfying than masturbation. The only thing added is a sense of power of one person over another which is actually mitigated by the loss of cash!

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Right, and a false flag operation for sure. It’s just immediately obvious, even the government’s agenda here is clear. James, you wanna learn everybody on the facts?

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Son of a Californian movie director that has been working on the Hunger Games movies. Very interesting, is it not?

I seem to remember our other mass shooting theatrical friend within the Colorado movie theater having a flare for clowns just as I do being the son of somebody important or influential also. A son of some prominent government member.

Of course, I’m very sure it’s all just coincidence, right?

You know James, I don’t really fall for too much conspiracy stuff unless it’s believable with some evidence but I’m sure you have heard of the CIA mind control experiments especially the ones involving a particular Canadian psychological facility. Makes one wonder of course certainly.

As for this particular case, all I can say is that I just don’t know. It’s all very fascinating nonetheless.

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Is that the best you can do? Your ameteur side is showing. Addressing me you have to put your big boy pants on.

The usual run of the mill antics don’t work very well with me. You have to be more creative than that.

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I don’t know about that. That just makes the kid more vindictive, ruthless, and violent as they grow older.

The reason they fall all over you is because of the money and power. Love is bullshit along with anybody that buys into it. It is a worthless and irrelevant concept.

Most people may fall for petty romantic idealisms but I certainly don’t.

I live in the real world that’s drives and motivations are far more simpler not to mention also uglier.

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Damned if I know. I do not know this person. Its not a one size fits all thing. Which is why I said that those around him are the ones that can help, they are the ones that know him and how to talk to him or see danger signs.

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They certainly failed at that, didn’t they? Now we have all those dead bodies. Tisk, tisk, tisk…

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I’ve no time for weiners like yourself, who are incapable of reading or understanding the most basic distinctions in another’s post.

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Piss off then and don’t waste my valuable time. You’re obviously incapable of understanding what it is I’m saying. :slight_smile:

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You help people like that by never believing their accuser. It has become a High Tech Science of Satanism.

Before Jonestown, no one in America had even heard of a murder-suicide, the perfect crime. Afterward, it became the science and trend of the nation with 10’s of thousands of murder-suicides. Now they can kill anyone, blame anyone, or make anyone vanish - no witnesses, no court costs, and gain profit from it.

No one can argue with a video, right? Yet time and time again, their videos are shown to be faked.

You just find someone like Durden there, who has expressed his distaste and dissension, make a video with someone who looks largely like him (not counting hypnotizing him at an opportune moment), choose any one of a dozen methods for mass murdering (preferably young girls and/or children - for sympathetic effect. Schools are best), then kill Durden, leaving “his” video as “proof”.

Why do it? Well, you ARE trying to disarm the citizens despite a constitutional law against it. You ARE trying to obtain totalitarian reign over all life. You ARE trying to be rid of all actual dissenters. You ARE trying to get rid of anyone with an independent mind. You ARE trying to reduce the population by a huge percentage while not being blamed. You ARE trying to annihilate the white race. If nothing else, You need the practice at false flags, because with each case, You learn a little more of how to do it more scientifically and precisely. Obama gets caught at it every time he turns around (Muslims just aren’t very good at such guile). And they are getting better.

Remember Sandy Hook? Did you ever discover that in that case, the children weren’t even hurt? Sometimes, one can even get away with faking the deaths as well.

Your entire society is the Land of Lies, now high tech, virtual reality at its finest, but still getting better. All imperial profit, no lose… the perfect crime. As they have said, “We WILL be gods!!”