How do you make decisions in life?

How do you make decisions in life?
for example currently I have to make a decison of whether to study economics or quantum mechanics, but I don’t know much people who study both. so in order to make a decison I plan to do the following things:

  1. try to read some serious books on quantum physics and economics

Then,

2.find some online forum on those two topics, ask for some advice and information about the future of those two disciplines,

Finally,

3.I will have a clear view on which direction should I choose in life.

Do you find this procedure of decision-making good?

No, it’s not good, it’s unnatural.

It is true that most people do precisely what you’re trying to do here, but this is because they are pressured by adults to grow up as soon as possible.

The reason you find it difficult to decide is because you have detached from your drives.

You should always start from your drives, from your means, and work upwards from there, not the other way around.

You should study what you want to study.

Your decision should be based on your natural inclinations, not on what others want you to do.

You are being what I call hyper-rational.

It’s amusing how you haven’t noticed that you claim that the reason he finds it difficult to decide is because he has detached from his drives, then you continue by saying that one should always start from one’s own drives and work upwards (all of which I agree with), then you advocate a complete detachment from one’s own drives

One’s drives are one’s own needs, NOT wants. There is a difference between needs and wants.

Needs derive directly from one’s biological/genetic predispositions and are core to one’s survival, while wants are shaped and directed by the environment and are typically more fantastical, particular, and detached from needs, which also allows for HEDONISM - excessive pleasuring.

Typical wants of the average human: ‘I want a sports car’, ‘I want a yacht’, ‘I want a chick with a big butt and tits/a guy with a six pack and a 7inch dick’ etc.
Typical needs are described by Maslov’s hierarchy quite well and are usually more realistic and achievable.

Yes, Magnus, you are advocating hedonism here - that one should study whatever they want to study, which means whatever feels good and provides pleasure regardless of other factors.

What if one wants to study a stupid, worthless subject like gender studies?
What if it is guaranteed that one won’t be able to find a job and thus won’t be able to provide for themselves and survive if they study what they want to study?
Is there no superior standard of deciding what one should study except what one ‘wants’ to study?

above us only sky, the questions you should be asking yourself, is whether you intend to make your life your job and your job your life, OR if your job will only be a means for you to survive and pay for other things you’re interested in, or something in between.

Aside from what you ‘want’, as Magnus said, what you find ‘pleasure’ in studying, you should also consider how the chosen subject will impact your needs.

Will studying subject X eventually land me a job somewhere, or is it entirely unpractical and highly improbable for me to get a job anywhere, in which case choosing subject X may be dangerous to my very existence.
To what extent am I interested in that job?
Will I sacrifice time spent with family and friends to work, or will I sacrifice work for time spent with family and friends? Which one do I need more?
How does studying subject X and then working X related job impact all my other goals in life, does it contribute to their accomplishment or impede it?
What ARE my other goals in life?
What is my hierarchy of priorities?

Questions like that only you and you alone can answer, hence knowing thyself is crucial.

First you imagine infinite possibilities.

Expanding your mind also expands your choices and potential. This (Thinking) takes time and energy. Some people have to make decisions quickly and rapidly, and so have very little time for thought (organization). Other people, more luxurious and privileged, have a lot of time for thought. Privilege is “spare time”. So the best way to make decisions in life, is to use that spare time and consider all of your options, even the more radical and unimaginable options. Explore the Absurd. Examine choices that many people are scared of, or simply too stupid to access.

Thinking is a privilege and exemplifies the height, the apex of human evolution. Of the 7,000,000,000 human turds on this planet, a few, or a handful, or a hundred, or a thousand, have merit and are worth listening to. The rest? Can be ignored and swiped away with your hand.

First admit that somebody ‘above’ you maybe able to make better/superior decisions/judgments than you. Once you admit this, then you will understand the importance of wisdom in your life. Some men are wise. Most others are not.

Usually, most of the time, you know yourself better than other people. Granting this fact, wisdom applied to your own constitution, lifestyle, and hierarchy of needs, is best for you to “make your own decisions”. However, if somebody does know you better than you know yourself, then in that case, it is better to obey with obedience than it is to “make your own decision”.

In western culture, u.s.a. everybody is taught to “make your own decisions”. But there is a degree too much. Morons, idiots, and mental retards should not be making their own decisions. And for the most part, they/you are not. Corporations, Institutionalization, Military-Industrial complex, etc. these social groups dictate your decisions for you.

Most of the time, (90% perhaps), a young boy joining the army to become a soldier, is not making this decision “for himself”, but rather is goaded and convinced into it. Most soldiers do not want to be on the frontline of a war, getting slaughtered by the hundreds of thousands. Understand?

So it depends on how intelligent and wise you are. If you are both, and mature, then you should make your “Own” decisions. But if you are a mental retard, then you should look higher, to a higher intelligence and wisdom, to do your thinking for you, as most people do (even quite a few members on this forum, require others to think for them).

Example

You’re driving a car, and need to reach your destination a mile ahead, down town.

Do you:

  1. Go forward, into traffic
  2. Turn left onto a sidestreet
  3. Turn right into an alleyway
  4. Turn around and begin a worldwide adventure, going completely around the world, taking weeks, months, and even years to finally reach the destination that was just a mile ahead. Instead you went all the way around the world, backward.

Decide now.

I am not advocating hedonism. You are basing this on a single sentence of mine, on a single word of mine, which is “want”.

You are forcing your own definition of “want” onto mine.

One should study what one wants to study quite simply because wants indicate one’s strengths.

You want to employ your strengths to the max, you do not want to limit them. You don’t want to do something simply because it allows you to survive.

If being a ballerina promotes survival and everything else demotes it, should I become one?

Should I become a ballerina?

No, I shouldn’t, I can’t, I don’t have the drive to do so.

You can’t fuel a drive over night. It takes centuries and millenia of evolution to fuel a drive.

You want to study what is in tune with your drives. Similarly, you want to find a job that fits your drives.

Either there is a study and a job that fits your drives or there isn’t.

If there isn’t, you are likely going to die.

And that’s it.

Detachment occurs when you stop doing what you want to do.

Usually, people stop doing what they want to do due to survival reasons.

Hedonism is when you do what you do not want to do simply because it makes you content (which means, it calms the rebelling voices inside your mind, which means, it denies your fear.)

The idea that you should study what you do not want to study simply because it makes your life secure is a modern, quintessentially slavish, idea.

While security is desirable, it should never come at the cost of being yourself.

You want to use your own drives, your own strengths, your own natural inclinations, to achieve security. If you cannot do so, you should perish.

What’s the point, anyways? What’s the point of surviving as slave, as someone else?

The modern has an aversion towards death. He is obsessed with future, with growing up, which is the opposite of nobility, which worships past and youth.

You didn’t define what you mean by ‘want’, how should I know what you mean? My definition is just a slight extrapolation of the official definitions.

Not necessarily, it may be that wants indicate what one desires his strengths are.

And it may be that because you are more honest and aware of your own strengths and weaknesses that even your wants are somewhat ‘down to reality’ that you assume such is the case with other people. It isn’t.

Some months ago we had a retard, literally a retard, enter the police force - not only is he mentally deficient, but also physically weak, but he always ‘wanted’ to be a cop so they made him a cop out of pity, basically making a cop a person who needs constant babysitting to make sure he doesn’t fuck up, giving a retard the authority of a police officer. Does it mean it’s this retard’s strength to be a cop, cause he wants to be a cop?

Yes. But reality isn’t perfect and fantastical and romantic and caring about our drives and needs, and it especially doesn’t care of our wants. This means that it’s impossible to go through life without occasionally doing something you don’t want to do.

I see life as being about accepting the bad along with the good, not pretending that the bad doesn’t exist. It is about adaptation, which means being flexible within certain limits, without losing what one considers central to their identity, making trade-offs where you favor things which are aligned with your drives at the expense of those which aren’t.

When one becomes capable of tolerating suffering that is life, they gradually become more resistant to it and eventually overcome it.

Too rigid sense of an identity and self-worth leads to lack of options in real life and escape to fantasy or death, the ‘not wanting to get one’s hands dirty’ mentality.

And see, this is the problem. Content does not mean the same as “satisfied”. Satisfied refers to something more immediate, sensual, base (hedonistic) while content refers to a more long-term, profound state of being.

That I agree with fully.

I reflect on them before i make them - do the benefits outweigh the losses? Your No. 2 is a wise way to begin.

If you’re going in the direction already of either economics or quantum mechanics (you said, for example) is it real or is it just an example?
But if you are already going in either direction, you just need to make the decision based on what you think and feel would give you the greatest satisfaction and achievement - after all, it’s your life, no one else’s.
Those two career choices seem to be so far removed from one another but I may be wrong.
If you could study both, why not - does it matter that many don’t?

Then, the last thing to do is to ask yourself the question: WHAT DO I REALLY WANT TO DO? Then forget about it and trust me the answer WILL come to you.
Don’t forget, doing all of those things might just bring you to a third option - where you really want to be.
One more thing, what encompasses both economics (in a sense) and quantum mechanics? What other career may come out of both of those?

Arbiter:

Do I have to define every single word I use? What happened to lateral thinking? How do you read philosophers such as Nietzsche and Baudrillard?

You made a mistake. You misunderstood what I said.

You have to be careful when reading my posts. Not because I want to hide behind the vague, but because I don’t want you to misinterpret me and force me to analyze the mechanism by which you misinterpret me. It’s not very fun because I gain very little and you lose pretty much everything.

I want to retain the right to be “vague” because I cannot afford to speak in very precise terms. I do not have the time to do so. It’s too much of a limit.

Force me to be too exact and you censor me – I can no longer say anything.

The concept of “want” I used in that post isn’t as broad as you make it out to be. For example, it does not include those wants that lead to denial (those wants that go counter to other wants.)

When I say “do what you want” I do not say “do anything”. What I say is “do what is in tune with your drives”.

Depending on how you use language, you can say that many slaves do what they want to do, which is to be slaves. They are happy to deny themselves. But this is not what I mean when I say “do what you want”. Slaves do not do what they want to do, no matter how happy they are.

A want is always an indicator of some sort of strength. It is a momentum and momentum is strength. However, you have to know what kind of strength lies beneath it.

Just because someone says “I want to be a cop” does not mean he is capable of being a cop. What he might be trying to say is “I want to be an imitation of cop”. His strength might be lying in imitating cops, not in being one.

Now, let’s look at the context in which I wrote my post.

We have a man who wants to decide between two choices toward which he has no natural inclination.

Of course, I may be wrong. He might be inclined toward both, in which case my post is inappropriate. But I think he has no inclination towards any. Otherwise, he wouldn’t have to read “serious books on quantum physics and economics” (because if he is naturally inclined toward these subjects, he must have read these books already.)

The OP is happy to study something he does not want to do study simply because it makes his life secure.

I used the word “want” to oppose this sentiment.

I never said that you should base your decisions on a single want. That is hedonism, but that is not what I said. We have multiple wants, not a single want, so we have to relate every want to every other want in order to make a quality desicion.

But you cannot transcend your wants without becoming a slave.

Adaptation is a minor thing. It’s about taking what you already have and then tweaking it a little. It’s about making the smallest possible change. Big changes are a no no.

Making big changes is what it means to be a slave. People try to change too much when they become uncomfortable with themselves. Take Christianity for example.

A man who wants a 10 and nothing but a 10 is another example.

Not because wanting a 10 is a bad thing (we all want the best, don’t we?) but because it means he is uncomfortable with himself.

I am speaking of female looks, of course.

A man can settle for less if he can balance it somewhere else. But he cannot settle for any because he cannot balance any.

In certain situations, he cannot find any balance and so he will either die without reproducing or reproduce as a slave.

We should not conflate such a man with a man who is uncomfortable with himself.

usually short sighted impulses

Here’s how most people do it:

Sadly, there is truth to that, I think. Perhaps it’s because many have no real sense that they can be more autonomous, more responsible for their own lives, their own free choices. Sure, we are determined in ways and perhaps because of cause and effect our wills aren’t that free but we can transcend a lot and kind of “come to self” in more ways than we think.

After having left it to the gods, we grumble that things didn’t turn out the way we want. Looking at things in hindsight and reflecting on them is swept under the carpet - and out c ome the dice again…

It really depends on what you’re trying to accomplish. What’s your goal?

Flip a coin, you like both, so just flip the coin. You can always get a minor in the one not chosen by the coin.

For fucks sake… No, for your LIFE’s sake, don’t do that. By saying that flipping the coin is the best option you have they’re implying that you already like both of the subjects EQUALLY, but that is impossible. Surely you like one of them more than the other?

Flipping coins and gambling is how idiots go through life, and usually ruin it.

If there is enough question to post a thread like this , then desire/need is near equal. And life is gambling.

The shortest distance between two points.

Thank you all,

I wrote this thread because I am looking for an universal decision-making method that can be used in many circumstances, but is there any?

The example I gave is a decision that I have to make right now quickly, but I have been procrastinating on this, because every time I think about this decision I experience pains in my head…

But is asking this question itself silly? I always feel the answers to the questions in my life is out there and I just need to ask some people or read some books then I can find the solutions. If I have to make the decisions all by myself then I would feel very insecure inside as if my decisions are wrong.

You can clearly see that in this situation when I have to make a really decision, first I have to write a thread and search for the perfect decision making method, do you do this? Is this normal?

We all have our own particular quirks, methods, insecurities etc, yours is normal