How does one find a way out of nihilsm?

Well?

How can I return to value shit?

Gobbo’s Anti-Nihilism Cookies.

3 Cup Introspection
1/2 Cup Nietzsche
2 Cups Willpower (however misconstrued)
2 Cup Weed
1 Cup irregular sleeping hours
Dash of egomania
Dash of immediate contempt for anything said or done

Now, you can substitute a cup and a half of love for spouse/gf/bf for 1.5 of the two cups of weed – that’s another variation.

Do something you enjoy. Simple.

Duder - how did you find your way in? Take responsibility for your life. Make a decision. Grow up. Care. Create. Take a shower.

Are you serious?

Duder,

Allow youself to fall in love - not neccessarily with another person; at least yet.

One early, bitterly cold morning, Viktor Frankl, and a work detail of fellow Auschwitz inmates were already at work, digging a trench in the frozen ground with dull tools and frozen hands. As Frankl recounts, they were men who had lost everything; their familes as well as their professions. And they were dying; from starvation, dysentery and a host of other wretched ailments. The prisoners worked steadily as a guard paced up and down the trench, cursing them, occasionally hitting one of them with his rifle butt. Frankle heard the man next to him whisper something. “What is it?,” Frankl hissed. The man repeated, “Look how beautiful the sun is coming up through the Austrian pines.” *

“If your world seems bare, don’t blame it; blame yourself, tell yourself that you are not a poet enough to call forth its riches.” Rainer Maria Rilke

Regards,
Michael

  • taken from, Viktor Frankl, “Man’s Search For Meaning”

Problem is I overanalyze everything to the point of meaningless. I have an overactive brain. I understand its my perception of the world that needs to be changed, not the world itself. I guess Its the little things.

I can’t believe I started this thread. I feel like kicking me own ass.

Duder wrote

Kafka was like that.

That’s why I want you to start with little things. I have a piece by Herman Hesse on my computer at home that may be of help. Or not. In any case, I carried a copy of it around in my pocket when I was a kid. I’ll try to find it tonight and email it to you. You have to look beyond the dated bits, though. The title is, On Little Joys. It appeared in a collection of essays titled, My Belief - which may be out of print. Harry Haller, the Steppenwolf, ought to have carried a copy with him. :wink:

If not for the copyright issue, I’d post it. But anyone that wants it knows where to find me.

Cheers,
Michael

you say this and still consider yourself a nihilist? :slight_smile:

Well, she’s fallen for me…

It is possible to be a nihilist and a good person at the same time. One does not preclude the other…

Yeah, Tab. But nihilism is an extreme position. You can’t be “kinda-sorta” nihilistic. I am sceptical whenever someone cares enough to say “I am a nihilist”. They often say it almost as if it is a value.

I just don’t take it seriously.

Not very often.

By the way, you’ve been long on substance and short on rhetoric lately.

I’m not sure which Tab I like better. The rhetoric is always very good, at least.

Everything you touch turns to gold, Polemarchus.

Be careful. Sometimes atheists are so perfect they raise suspicions that God might actually exist.

i may have arrived too late,but,i’d like to analyze why you thought there was meaning in the first place?

was it youthfull health that did it?

do not forget this. the mind degrades from a hostile environment and seeks to heal itself with thought instead of physical treatment.

that was only a suggestion,not everyone’s immediate problem,but a statement that deserves to be taken seriously.

that’s all for now i guess…

For me it’s ego. Nihilists are rather rare, and there’s always a side of it that scoffs at happy people- you know, people who give a shit about something just don’t know how it is. I’ve got it all figured it out, and It All sucks.
But then I remember I’m not Baron Von Doom. I’m just some dude. I haven’t even gone to college yet. So, what, I’m the magical man who knows how everything really is, and the billions of happy people are dumb?
Hubris! So then I laugh at myself.

:laughing: I live for the day you say something unmitigatedly nice about me. Your posting style without fail walks the tightrope of ticklish ambiguity.

But thanks, I think. :wink: One week substance, one week rhetoric, one week cheap shots and general sniping. Strict rota.

Bullshit.

So, you’re self-determination and uniqueness is judged unfit and cancerous by the modern system? Who are they to judge good and bad? Look what they are doing to themself and the earth.

Wouldn’t you want for someone to nihiliate with you?
Maybe both at the same place, at the same time?

A descending abyss of lies built upon lies, leaving no room for the reality which threatens its own existence.

Before this “species” dies, it will take down thousands of other species with it.

All forms of conformist momentum want the entire universe to fallow their lead, no matter how suicidal, and this applies to national-philosophy, pop-culture, layman-consensus, corporate economics, police states. The list goes on.

But they have put prerequisites on all of their love and affection.

If you were to ignore how low quality and useless their love is, then you maybe could ask for it, but would you get it? No. You’re not one of the gang. You haven’t joined the cult yet. Which baby did you sacrifice to Ra? Send them off to collage – so that they can feed the machine. This nation needs more power. Why? Why have learly half of the entire world’s resources and still have a vast national debt? Because they are mother fuckers! And they need more fuel to WASTE.

It’s oilerific.

How about lie to yourself?

Billions of people can be wrong, but at that point they will crush or deny anything which stands in the way of their untrue zeal.

Lucky fuckers
Have fun as they fuck.

Soon there will be some babies
To be threatended farther by the blood and poison
Once it’s too close to ignore
And humanity falls.

Each
Through emotional need
Is forced to play the game.
Not by choice
Not by reason
Only by tradition!

Do people believe what they are not born into?
No.

No atheists will believe YOU.
No theists will believe the atheists.

Culture has been set in stone.

You can’t redirect the fundamentals if even 1 “human”.
Neither can I.
And theres 6billion+
Including those who control the media
And everything else.

Fit in
Or fade away.

Try to be happy
Maybe gay.

And try to stay
Within the sway
Of doom’s day.

That gets lonely, man. Even Zarathustra returned to his people

Lonely hey?
All you need is a few real allies. Real friends.
What good are the fake friends anyways?
They’ll only love you once you’ve killed yourself.
How so?
You’ve got to destroy it or let it die, the truth, the reality, the un-intoxicated existence and the personality which rose from it.
You’ll have to let go of everything that you are,
Go backwards through everything you’ve ever learned,
Just to re-assure your troubbled heart,
That you’re somehow right,
By people agreeing with you somehow,
And becoming amused by your beging for the treat.

Wanting the people to agree with you
Is an act of wanting to agree with the people.