How Two Wrongs Make a Right

This is for Ben JS a.k.a. Joe Schmoe.

See, you don’t understand and you didn’t state it in a relevant circumstance. What you and most people have tried to do is add a negative to a negative and of course you only further compound that negative. I force multiply and when you multiply a negative by a negative, you can only ever get a positive.

Instead of simply having it be so cut chase as to provide a simple wrong vs. wrong mentality, it is not that clear and many people are right in one aspect while remaining wrong in another. You’re bringing more variables into the equation than you can consciously think about. You don’t understand that I do Clarify, Verify, Instill and Reinforce. What you don’t understand and what you don’t want to understand is that you can’t always get your way in life.

I understand what you have been taught by others, but what you have been taught is not right and my response to you and to him have been entirely justified, and I will tell you how. It is called ‘Tough, but fair.’ Since you won’t respect me when I’m being nice and simply explaining my stance, being nice doesn’t work. Since people see it as a sign of weakness or as me simply trying to ‘compete’ with them through lying and trickery, being nice doesn’t work.

All that is gold does not glitter. If someone seems too nice, it’s because they’re really not and they’re covering up for a bunch of shit. Whereas, you find someone comfortable in their skin and not lying about any of what they do and you know you can trust them as long as you do the same. Now, I’m not going to just sit back and let you walk all over me; nor am I going to let you tell me I’m wrong for coming to this conclusion and reacting in this manner, because it is the manner that you and others have pushed me to react in through various facets of conversation and your own choices.

I will never end things on a negative if it can be avoided. I don’t just tear down, I raise up at the same time. I am the complete package and I know what I’m about and not a single one of you can waylay me or stop me or confuse me or even try to pretend that I’m weak for it in any way. If you had approached me with proper respect; approached everything you do with proper respect, we would not have these arguments the way we have them.

The fault is always upon you. I take my responsibility for these moments 100% and I analyze and see if there’s any other way possible to do it, both before and after; and there isn’t. There is not any other way to do this that any of you would accept. Those that do accept it won’t ever really argue with me because they see the sense and reason of what I say because of how I do things and because they might have some glimmer of understanding within themselves.

I will push you to become better than what you are and just the same, I invite you to do the same to me. I use what I know to work because it has served to work for countless people besides just me. It is changing the very fabric of the world around us as I weave myself into nature and it is something completely beyond me at this point and I have been caught up in the flow of it.

You are nothing. You have completely lost the person you were, if you were ever even that person and that was not, itself, a lie given. I know this universe; this is my playground and I know its rules better than most of you even if you know better the terms that mortals have applied to these concepts that man used to work without having the data right in front of his face; when he used to trust that knowledge within himself.

your math, your science, your religion, your psychology, your sociology, your governments, your politics… everything you do belongs to the Universe and is the sole property of it and you along with everything else. You are nothing but a child of the universe and an overly arrogant one at that; you lack humility and I shamed you at least once already. If you want to keep this up, I’ll be slapping you left and right.

That last part makes me have to ask…do you have the key to the universe?

there is no key. There has never been anything stopping people from seeing it, except themselves. You all have been told how to see it countless times. The universe is mirrored within us. You have been told how to find it by so many various aspects of humanity in so many different ways. These humans try to cheat a system they can’t cheat while creating their own system that is entirely cheatable. Our society becomes the devil’s wet-dream and the complete stoking of his own spoiled indulgences. The truth will set you free.

I appreciate your reply, but I have to say that it seems a bit cryptic.

Then perhaps you need to pay more attention to life. It’s actually very simple at the same time as remaining complex. The complexity lays in explaining it; the simplicity is in how easy it is to do it once you realize.

So it’s a secret that I can only find out by paying more attention to life? I feel like I’ve submerged myself in life, by most conventional definitions more than most. I don’t think I have the key to the universe.

It’s not a fucking secret. Jesus fucking christ dude; quit trying to piss me off, already. You get exactly what the fuck I’m saying, you just want to fuck with me because you don’t want to admit it.

It’s my mission in life to get people to strengthen their arguments, and that’s both sides of any given debate. So I’m bound by duty to point out things like ambiguity in language, or unaccounted for possibilities. It’s my job man. I don’t do it to piss you off.

Bull shit. You can say that’s your mission, but it isn’t. People strengthen their arguments on their own, not you. They push themselves; not you. All you do is be a dick by never explaining what the fuck you’re doing. You make it hard as Hell for other people and think that’s right? I’m going to call you on it because all you and others do is piss people the fuck off for the wrong reasons. You’re not helping the world; you’re tearing it the fuck apart. All you have to do is present ideas and theories and it makes people want to think on their own.

I’ve seen you around here; you’re not that stupid. You pay attention to what’s going on; you’re interested in it. You’re not pushing me here to more fully develop my arguments because by now you’ve seen enough of them to where there is not any doubt. Which means you have done this simply to fuck with me and piss me off and pretend otherwise because you thought you had learned enough to step to me and get away with it. You’ve learned nothing because you learned the wrong things.

I really haven’t read that much of what you’ve written. Usually I get to the part where you become hostile and condescending and I think yeah ok moving on.

You made a post. I read it. It essentially said, at the point I was referencing that you had some key to the universe that’s unexplainable and all that. I just asked if that’s what you meant. Then you basically said I didn’t know enough about life. I’m 35 in 3 weeks. I’ve been all over the world and lived under a wide variance of conditions. So I said I think I understand the world but that I didn’t think I had the key. Then you said, something about my character or my psychology.

Is that about it?

Step to you? I’m just asking you to clarify your post. It’s not my fault that you’re being fiercely defensive.

Aggression wont beat reasoning on a message board man. Telling me I’ve learned nothing because I learned the wrong thing is just silly. You have no idea what I know.

Now, you just said you felt you had submerged yourself enough into life and yet you can’t even pay attention to the full of what a person is saying because you’re too judgmental of their actions. Why don’t you fuck off, now? Because I have both aggression and reason and I will wield both equally against you and anybody else that wants to act a fool. I will be fiercely defensive when I have need to be. I will make use of my paranoia to pull at strings and see where they go; because my paranoia is usually right and I just pin-pointed in you just how much of a hypocrite you are.

And that is why you don’t see what I see; that is why you don’t feel as if you have the key to the universe when there is no key; you refuse to allow the truth to set you free.

I think you get your feeling hurt too easily.

And pointing out hypocrisy is what people do who don’t realize that it’s inherent in the world and inescapable. You’re a hypocrite too. Big deal.

No, I think you’re trying to get away with bullshit and I just called you on it perfectly and now you’re trying to make me look like the bad guy for it when you just fucking lied to me and everybody else and are trying to save face; just like every other hypocrite I’ve ran into.

So I’m lying to you to get away with bullshit just like all the other hypocrites?

By asking you to clarify a part of your post?

Your paranoia is always right?

Save face?

Whoa man.

I’m not going to sit here and clarify something that is already clear just because you want to be an asshat and ask for an answer that has A. already been given countless times throughout history and B. won’t go in proper search of the answers yourself.

My paranoia is not always right; I never said that.

And yeah; save face. That is exactly what you’re doing.

And no, I am not being a hypocrite. I am saying what I am doing; I am being honest and urging others to be honest, too. I am telling you I’m not perfect but am searching for growth and ask you to give that growth to me at the same time as accepting growth from me. It is a give and take relationship between all things. I can be honest about my shit and still do it because I know I’m not perfect, but I’m trying and I expect other people to try, too and we’ll push each other.

You’re a hypocrite because you won’t accept truth and thus can’t see it.

You started a thread about it, and when I ask you a question you tell me that you’re not telling, because it’s already been answered elsewhere and then you say I’m too lazy to use google?

Are you drunk?

No… You know you prove me right with every response you give, right? You just sealed it and now I’m done. I’m not even going to give you the response you want because I never said a damn thing about google and you know it. You know exactly what I mean and you want to sit there and pretend you don’t all because you can’t admit your shit. You can fuck off now, Mr. Reasonable. And change your name while you’re at it; it no longer suits you.

I’m proving you right that you have the unexplainable key to the universe? Or that you think I’m a dick?

No, you prove me right about my accusations of your character and your refusal to accept the truths of those accusations. You prove them right with each reaction you give and you don’t even realize it being too caught up in your own delusions. And you are a dick. And that’s the entire point of it. Until you can accept the truths of your self, you will never understand God or the Universe in full. There is no fucking key, you jackass. It’s only ever been you.

I’m interested in why my character becomes your focus when I ask you to clarify your post. I think it’s pretty telling with regard to just how well you think you can defend your argument. I mean, you didn’t even try.