Hypnosis and western medicine.

The following is from a Seth book i am reading. enjoy…

Even in primitive societies, witch doctors and other natural therapists have understood that the point of power is within the present, and they have utilized natural hypnosis as a method of helping other individuals to concentrate their own energy. All of the gestures, dances, and other procedures are shock treatments, startling the subject out of habitual reactions so that he or she is forced to focus upon the present moment. The resulting disorientation simply shakes current beliefs and dislodges set frameworks. The hypnotist, or witch doctor, or therapist, then immediately inserts the beliefs he thinks the subject needs.

Within this context, subsidiary groupings will be included that involve the therapists own ideas. In your society regression is often involved; the patient will remember and relive a traumatic experience from the past. This will then appear to be the cause of the present difficulty. If hypnotist and subject both accept this, then at that level there will be progress.

If the cultural concepts include voodoo or witchcraft, then the therapeutic situation will be seen in that context, and a curse uncovered; which, using the power point of the present, the doctor will then reverse.

Quite without the context of formal hypnosis, however, the same issues apply. With the greatest understanding and compassion, let me mention that Western medicine is in its way one of the most uncivilized hypnotic devices. The most educated Western doctors will look with utter dismay and horror at the thought of a chicken being sacrificed in a primitive witch doctors hut, and yet will consider it quite scientific and inevitable that a woman sacrifice two breasts to cancer. The doctors will simply see no other way out, and unfortunately either will the patient.

A modern Western physician(granted, with the greatest discomfiture) will inform his patient that he is about to die, impressing upon him that his situation is hopeless, and yet will react with scorn and loathing when he reads that a voodoo practitioner has put a curse upon some innocent victim.

In your time, medicinal men, again with great superiority, look at primitive cultures and harshly judge the villagers they think are held in the sway of witch doctors or voodooism; and yet through advertisement and organization, your doctors impress upon the individual in your culture that you must have a physical examination every six months or you will get cancer; that you must have medical insurance because you will become ill.

In many instances, therefore, modern physicians are inadequate witch doctors who have forgotten their craft–hypnotists who no longer believe in the power of healing, and whose suggestions bring about other diseases which are diagnosed in advance.

You are told what to look for; you are as cursed–far more—as any native in a tiny village, only you lose breasts, appendixes, and other portions of your anatomy. The doctors follow their own ideas, of course, and in that system they see themselves as completely justified—as humane.

In the medical field, as in no other, you are faced directly with the full impact of your beliefs, for doctors are not the healthiest, but the least healthy. They fall prey to the belefs to which they so heartily subscribe. Their concentration is upon disease, not health.

You can’t really say that we “sacrifice” breasts to cancer… I mean, while sacrificing a chicken is a volatile decision, acquiring breast cancer or some other disease is most likely involatile. Granted, if the doctor did not do everything possible to save the breasts in question, you could phrase it as “sacrificing” them - but to what? To the gods of medicine? :wink:

This Seth guy either doesn’t understand Western medicine at all or is deliberately making nonsense of it to advance his position. Either way he’s an idiot. Stop reading his garbage.

well maybe i should not read your garbage.
Afterall that is your attempt at a suggestion. then You could in fact elaborate on your postion on western medicine… if you have one?

Hey, look at me! I’m quoting myself! Why? Because I seem to have been ignored! :cry:

I suppose my position on Western medicine is this: it’s a hell of a lot better than some of the methods that medieval doctors used, and I’d rather have today’s medicine than leeches.

Well, some of the shock value of what i quoted was a suggestion that you have been led to believe western medicine is ‘better.’
And another thing that could be mentioned is that at the time of midevil medicine where leaches where thought to be a valid form of removal of disease.
to realte
Western medicines approach is surgery.
I really want to go into the details of this Seth book, it is awesome. I used that excerpt because i knew it would get a reaction. When i read it my reaction was how true it seems the power of suggestion and the actual reality individuals experience.
The idea of using a leech or a scaple do nothing in correcting the origin of the malady.
There is no recognition that the manifestation is related to the suggestion even in the most mundane sense! Even before you suggest to use leaches there is a suggestion of disease that is creating the actual disease.
And i am talking about western medicine and our ideas concerning health within that system.
If you believe in western medicine, thats cool, i dont though. :slight_smile: I see its suggestions as actually doing more harm than ‘good.’ They remove some part of you or attempt to correct some part of you but dont know the origin of the dis-ease in relation to our ideas, or understand the connection of the conscious mind and physical body. And that the body actually follows your ideas about its functioning and how it should function.