I accuse god of crimes against humanity

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Smears"]Is it still a crime is a person has immunity? I mean, I suppose we’ve made our way to the problem of definition. Is it necessarily the case that if a crime is commited that a conviction can be be reached given the proper evidence? If a person has immunity then can they still be convicted, and thus a criminal, given that there is no remedy in that they cannot be punished? I suppose it would take a lawyer to settle this."

K: who has immunity? god, bush. There is no immunity for crimes against humanity.

Kropotkin

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Well your accusations are part of some crazed conspiracy theory or something. I, unlike you, have faith in the judicial system of this great nation. If crimes were commited, then people would be in court. Since they’re not in court, there must not be sufficient evidence or something like that.

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Bush, and God, both act as agents of the people. Bush does what he’s supposed to do to help Americans, and God does whatever the people who wrote the bible want him to do. If anything, it should be the American people, and the guys who wrote the bible that are facing your accusations. You just want someone to be a scapegoat. If Bush is as dumb as some people like to make him out to be, then how can he truly be responsible for the things you say he is?

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Smears"]Bush, and God, both act as agents of the people. Bush does what he’s supposed to do to help Americans, and God does whatever the people who wrote the bible want him to do. If anything, it should be the American people, and the guys who wrote the bible that are facing your accusations. You just want someone to be a scapegoat. If Bush is as dumb as some people like to make him out to be, then how can he truly be responsible for the things you say he is"

K: alas, I must go work to ponder the wrongness of the statement that “god acts as an agent of the people”.

Kropotkin

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Look, say I make wind-up toys. I wind 'em up, and let 'em go. WUT1 knocks into WUT2, and the poor bugger goes off the edge of the table and into the fire.

Oh dear.

But was it my fault…?

say I could have stopped it. But then with my super-chrono-vision I looked ahead down the “I saved his ass” timeline and saw that that particular WUT was destined to become the wind-up version of the una-bomber.

So it’s all good right…?

God can has tyrant defence, because basically God can go into anyone’s base, and steal their cheeseburgers. God’s an outside context problem. He cannot be judged because he has no peers.

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Mmmm cheeseburgers. A succinct summary of the standard defence.

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That’s nice that you think you can tell God how God should act.

I shouldn’t be offended by that at all.

And it is America,… a free country.

So keeping that in mind. I should tell you what I’ve figured out in the matter.
Why do bad things happen? Spiritual callousness.

Spiritual callousness where people draw border lines and say republicans aren’t quite human. They say I’d never be a republican because they are ?what?

Spiritual callousness where we get over on our employees because we think they are all a bunch of vultures nipping at our heels. Or they’re a bunch of peons that would be happy with a dog bone and a TV.

Or, you could look at authority and say,… why are these rules here. Is it because they are insensitive? Is it because they are blind to what it means to live under the rules. Is that why the bible says that a good leader must first be a servant (yes Jesus himself said that.)

Or spiritual callousness like a sociopath, where they are picked on every day, and end up shooting them all at school because they all look the same.

Or spiritual callousness that doesn’t fit the golden rule. Do unto others as you’d have them do unto you. Or you deserve what you do to others. Or, you go against other peoples rights, you lose your own rights (justice). Thou shalt not steal,… or thou shalt not take someones property with the intent to remove the value of said property from said person. In this, common sense is educationally replaced with stealing is okay when you can bend the rules.

Spiritual callousness where you wouldn’t treat your own mother or brother like that. But since they aren’t your neighbor, and you don’t have to live with them.

Spiritual callousness where you just don’t care and don’t want to understand what it means to be a republican. Capitalist, conservative, Christian. I am defiantly a Christian,… but I’ll bend the capitalist and conservative values. And I understand why people believe in the opposite, and I can’t force them to change.

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But God has a velvet hand, and an iron fist. Witch one will you get when he goes to shake your hand.

Word for the day… trepidation vs paranoia. OR better yet, preconception/stereotype vs. anticipation.

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would you say that people of the early days have a higher responsibility,… merely because of the butterfly effect (chaos theory)?

Would you say that, if your heart would ignore the thoughts and feels of God, Then why should God consider your feels and thoughts?

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PK:And what was god’s defense? Because god created and maintained the world, he had complete freedom over job and the world. A tyrants defense."

God can has tyrant defence, because basically God can go into anyone’s base, and steal their cheeseburgers. God’s an outside context problem. He cannot be judged because he has no peers.

K: Stealing one’s cheeseburger!!! If that isn’t a crime against humanity, I don’t know what is. Especially if the cheeseburger has bacon,ummmmmmm.
ah, What was I saying?

Kropotkin

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Peter Kropotkin: I accuse god of crimes against humanity.

Plato: That’s nice that you think you can tell God how God should act.

K: I didn’t tell god how to act, I accused him of criminal actions.

Plato: I shouldn’t be offended by that at all.

K: It doesn’t really matter to me if you are offended or not because…

Plato: And it is America,… a free country.

K: yep.

Kropotkin