I like what he has to say…not everything…I follow his way…the sermon on the mount and the golden rule…
Following is the best form of worship.
The best from of following is to be crucified along with Him. You have to be crucified, to really have faith.
Refer to the madman scene in Nietzche’s Ecce Homo. In this sense N was likewise crucified, he becomes the true follower. Paul led Jesus to the cross, in order to found the church. Nietzsche loved and believed in Jesus, his commentary was meant as an desription of the world.
Following the cross, is the only true way to salvation. I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me.
Men crucify truth, and we have to re-live that, since redemption did nothing’s to change that. The Grand inquisitor made that very clear, at the dawn of existentialism, so, we are condemned to be reduced, to pitiful obsessive church goers, constantly washing off the spilled blood.
I have a few problems with the policies that Jesus promoted.
My min one is his divorce, or no divorce law. Let no man put asunder for any cause.
This link also shows some dubious policies. If you wish to debate some of then, I am here for that.
youtube.com/watch?v=j4QXOgVf … r_embedded
If Jesus is the same as the O.T. God, what do you think of his using genocide on mankind?
What of his torturing King David’s baby for 6 days before finally killing it?
Regards
DL
You have no problems with any of Jesus’ policies?
Regards
DL
Jesus has policies?
i have problems also…i don’t believe that the bible is the word of god…i see jesus as human…not god
That is true.
with love,
sanjay
That is true if you are taking the story only literally.
Crucify is metaphor for facing hardships for having faith on virtue.
with love,
sanjay
But, what is the problem with that?
First of all, Jesus was not the God himself. He was merely the messanger(prophet) of the God.
Secondly, OT was written some centuries before Jesus.
Thirdly, where he used genocide on the mankind?
There was no such thing. The whole story of the adultery is merely a folklore.
The fact of the matter is that before Prophet Dauad ( David ), it was a tradition that no one should marry the widow of the warriors. As the result, their life was used to be very miserable as they had to live the rest of their life as mistresses and slaves to others, and the same to their children.
David broke this tradition by marrying Bathsheba, the widow of Uriah to set the precedent for the masses to follow.
with love,
sanjay
So do I.
thesongofgod.com/tgc/basic_beliefs.html
That does not make some of his policies, that Christians believe in, any more palatable or moral.
I take it that you only accept the second rule that Jesus spoke of when he gave the golden rule. Correct?
Regards
DL
See above. Little of what I said will apply with your version of Christianity.
Which denomination are you in if any?
Regards
DL
Of course saying it doesn’t mean much if it isn’t actually done.
This thread is (as expected) indicative of what happens when one says that he “follows Jesus”; "Jesus = bad guy", “Jesus = god guy”, “Jesus = only prophet”, “Jesus = Son of God”, “Jesus = God”, “Jesus = just a man”,… - arguing, conflict, and attempts to persuade. Thus, “Where two or more gather in my Name/Principles, I am there.” Scripturally and spiritually speaking, Jesus IS his Principles being applied (hence, “In the beginning, I was there”).
A part of the Principles of Jesus, “policies”, is that one largely isolates himself from the conflict, chaos, anger, and wants of the world, leaving it behind, “in it, but not a part of it”. And of course, there are other principles. I found it interesting to find that very many preachers don’t actually even know Jesus’ principles, and thus do not actually know Jesus. It is hard to follow something if you don’t really know it.
Jesus is only easy to follow if you very deeply accept him (his principles). He is the Anti-conflict, Anti-chaos, Anti-lust, Anti-terrorist, Anti-presumptuous, and Anti-judgmental. Yet filled with discernment of harmony, hope, and opportunity, not lusting for, but flowing with consideration of all (“Altruist”).
But most of all, Jesus internalizes evil and all contradictions within himself into a reduction ad absurdum. The Crucifiction was as such, because allegedly, Christ knew the ramifications and the wider implications of his self sacrifice. This was a two fold reduction, one within himself, dealing with the nobility of his poverty (in the sense of excluding Himself from the hierarchy of conventional Judaism) and the preceding prophesy of how the world will interpret Him vis, through them. This double reduction, prescibed a third, the truth of the consequences of his journey, vis, his soul.
the way of jesus is the way of the golden rule…
That is not quite what scriptures say. He is quite barbaric in many of his condemnation, plus what he has also promised to do to us at end time.
That is hardly doing unto others.
youtube.com/watch?v=VFx7WFVP … e=youtu.be
It is also strange that he is doing more unto men than he does unto women in his divorce policy.
I compared the various Jesus’ and have this O.P. going.
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=185673
Care to have a look and opine?
Regards
DL
I just follow what I like and what is good…the bible was written by guys…some were more violent…
I really don’t give a shit about the hate…I think we may see things the same
Sweet. Keep on keeping on then.
Regards
DL
anybody else follow jesus here…
I cannot say that i am able to that completely, but i try as far as i can.
with love,
sanjay