I just sat on a pee covered toilet

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No, that’s not the question at all. Given that sitting in another’s piss can precipitate, among other things, dire health consequences, this is a question that revolves more around, say, common sense.

Instead, the moral question revolves around whether it is right or wrong to piss on the toilet seat. Or right or wrong to force another to sit on a toilet seat dripping with piss.

How do we go about deciding that – definitively – using the tools of philosophy?

Indeed, it is precisely regarding behaviors such as this that I note the frame of mind of the men and women who construe morality solely in terms of that which gratifies them. If they relish the thought [for whatever personal reason] of Turd sitting on their piss, how does Turd then demonstrate that such behavior [in a world sans God] is essentially or objectively immoral?

How would you do so if you sat on the piss?

And how would such a frame of mind not be profoundly rooted in dasein?

And, again, what makes you a meat-mind objectivist is your deep-seated propensity to insist that if others do not think about this in exactly the same manner in which you do they are, at best, wrong, or, at worst, a “retard”.

You know, in my opinion.

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In order to be consistent with your dasein ‘philosophy’ you would have to say that drowning in a pool of piss is not objectively better or worse than not drowning in a pool of piss, aka that there is no objective reason that one OUGHT to do or not to do something.

Otherwise, by saying that there can be “dire health consequences” you are already presupposing an ideal of health, but who is to say that health is objectively better than non-health?

According to you, it can’t be ascertained that one OUGHT to strive for health instead of sickness because it would be ‘meatminded objectivism’.

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Another way to put it would be to point out that saying that sitting on piss would have ‘dire health consequences’ is a reason not to sit on it implies a value judgment of health as good, and dire consequences for health thus bad. Aka, that it is not purely a matter of what IS, but you’re implying what ought to be and trying to mask it as an objectively unquestionable thing.

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If it makes you feel better, it might not be pee. It might be the ass-sweat of a very very fat person, or splash back onto the toilet seat after somebody took a massive shit with the hover method.

Hope this helps.

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I do the tp thing too… One bunch of it to wipe the seat, and then a layer of protection… Two layers of protection is intense !!!

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As I have explained time and time again, my “dasein philosophy” revolves solely around conflicting human behaviors derived from conflicting value judgments out in a world awash in political economy. And then [subsequently] the manner in which I have come to understand this from a subjective/subjunctive perspective rooted in dasein, conflicting goods and political/economic power.

Thus if someone chooses of their own volition to drown in a pool of piss, I would probe into their life in order to examine all of the existential variables that might have predisposed her to make this choice. But it becomes a moral issue [for me] only if someone argues that committing suicide is immoral…or if someone else chooses to drown her in a pool of piss. He murders her.

Is either suicide or murder inherently, necessarily immoral?

And that is when I focus the beam here:

[b][i]Instead, the moral question revolves around whether it is right or wrong to piss on the toilet seat. Or right or wrong to force another to sit on a toilet seat dripping with piss.

How do we go about deciding that – definitively – using the tools of philosophy?

Indeed, it is precisely regarding behaviors such as this that I note the frame of mind of the men and women who construe morality solely in terms of that which gratifies them. If they relish the thought [for whatever personal reason] of Turd sitting on their piss, how does Turd then demonstrate that such behavior [in a world sans God] is essentially or objectively immoral?

How would you do so if you sat on the piss?

And how would such a frame of mind not be profoundly rooted in dasein?[/i][/b]

Respond please.

Unless of course your ideal becomes to end your life and to commit suicide. Or if your ideal becomes to end the life of another and to commit murder. And not just in a pool of piss.

Where is the philosophical argument in a world sans God able to demonstrate that either suicide or murder [u][b]is[/u][/b] essentially or objectively immoral?

No, that is me according to you. Not the same thing at all.

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I can only suggest that you hover in the future…

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See… had you not fucked with my Anal Retention thread (Am I Full Of Shit?) where I was exploring Freud’s theory comedically, you would of learned eventually that I spent years squatting on the toilet, refusing to sit on them, after seeing monsters on movies pop up out of the toilet to bite people in the ass.

Honestly, you can’t approach the Hysteria inherent in All Retention better than through that sort of humor, Freud would of died laughing reading that thread… I carefully crafted it… it didn’t even occur to you how it applied to you symptomatically. As much as you pretend to be a list, free spirited artist actor of sorts, your one of the more retentive members on this forum. You more or less proved it in that thread. Sometimes, you just gotta let your shit and hubris flow out the back door.

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I think I remember that one.

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Oh… I did get that far. What about Kokado, and the Japanese Anal Demons? I really don’t know where we stopped, I had enough material to go for a few days hitting the various cultural archetypes around the world on retaining and releasing. Alchemy is rich in objects that resemble toilets, you be very surprised… Hung left a legacy behind (or from his behind) that one can’t easily flush away. A lot of dream interpretation symbolism, and how it effects politics.

Plus… you damn well know that title of that thread was clever as fuck, when tackling Anal Retentive Hysterics. Am I Full of Shit?.. a great work of philosophy is going to be shat out in my ruminations, it’s gonna land on every fratboys reading list who happens to be a psychology major. No end to puns or drinking games with that one. It was a stroke of absolute genius, and she killed it cause she is fucked in the head. Its like ripping up one of Mozart’s symphonies prior to publication… all cause the editor has grudges and issues.

My great vision will see fruition. Everyone is going to crack up laughing from my psychological insights. Some may even poo themselves in public listening… especially the ones walking around sour face all the time. Its written for you you little Anal retentive fucks.

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Turd, I’m glad that after your procured a medical examination by doctors that you in fact do not have AIDS from sitting on the pee covered toilet. Not even Hepatitus C either.

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Doc said toilet aids don’t exist. I said I had limbs on my lumps on my legs, where I sit… he took some scissors and cut them off, they were dingleberries. I asked him if the pee causes Ass Cancer, and would need my asshole cut out. He said no, you can’t remove a hole, as a hole is a lack of something, and any attempt would only cause it to grow larger.

When then got into a metaphysics debate about the parallels between the growth of cancerous tumors, and entropic fractals on the edge of a abyss.

He did find I had a few polyps in my colon. I was very lucky to meet a proctologist dyning next to me at Taco Bell. Gave me my checkup in the bathroom. Didn’t have gloved, but for $50 bucks beggars can’t be choosers. I have a follow up appointment in a van behind the grocery store next Friday… he has a mobile practice and can fit me in between house calls.

Who would of known Baja Mountain Dew is a medically approved Hand Sanitizer for proctal examinations? Thank God it wasn’t Fire Sauce, all I gotta say.

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That’s wonderful. I’m so very happy for you.

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Obamacare, it really has help get coverage for all.

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I just hope they don’t psychologically screen me under Obamacare when I plan on purchasing a bunch of rifles next year.

Might have to purchase some unregistered guns off the black market.

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Or, you can buy some Bibles instead, and start a church.

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Joker, you’re crazy man. So you qualify for a tax credit to help pay for private insurance…that’s Obamacare. So where does all this psychological screening shit come into play? There’s always been a question on the form you have to fill out to buy a gun from an FFL dealer that asks have you been institutionalized or whatever. Nothing’s changed there. If you can’t answer the questions on the yellow form in a way that allows you to buy a gun at a dealer, then you’ve just got to buy one from an individual who isn’t obligated to have you answer those questions. Most dealers have guns that they keep as their, “individual collection”, so that if you can’t get one through their FFL business they can just sell you a different one. Have you ever been to a gun show? Anyone who thinks it’s hard to get a gun in the US just hasn’t tried to get one.

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Have you checked out the gun rack at Goodwill yet? Salvation Army here carries a few too.

If you ask the police if they are auctioning off weapons they get in raids, sometimes one will be nice and just toss you one, saying no charge, they are running out of space. Its how I got my Claymores, I stacked they together to form a headboard for my bed. Just gotta be careful not hitting them with my head during sex.