I feel kinda bad about it but i really dont like black people. i dont know why, i guess cause theyre dumb and ugly. they act stupid and do stupid things and are just all around degenerative.
There are smart and beautiful blacks, you know.
Nietzsche suggested, and I paraphrase, that the Negro could be taken as a representative of pre-historical man (Genealogy of Morals, second treatise, section 7).
He lived a long time ago too.
Don’t be a fossil.
Your prerogative, I suppose.
So are non-blacks.
So do/are non-blacks. On the other hand, I’ve never come across a group of people more obsessed by skin colour than black people.
And Sauwelios will allude to Nietzsche regardless of the topic of conversation, and so should be flatly ignored.
Yes, I guess the Negro has caught up in the last 100 years…
That hardly seems a logical inference. Is there a missing link?
I’m just going to comment on how beautifully MRN handled this one. Excellent job, sir.
Why would a cultist Nietzschean care about logical inferences?
Yes. Bigfoot.
More seriously, yes, the fact that you take Nietzsche as an authority on every subject and expect others to do the same is a fallacy, the fallacy of arguing from authority. That you pick the same authority each time is a religious form of belief.
Now, you’ll continue to think however you please because in truth you couldn’t give a damn what I think of you. So be it (amor fati). But I feel that this place has enough people who think referencing Nietzsche constitutes a good contribution to discussions and so I’m openly resisting it in the name of trying to broaden the range of discussion on the site. You and I both know that we could quote Nietzsche at each other all day long but we’d be discussing very, very little. That you seem to take the same approach to discussion, regardless of the people or topics involved, I find bizarre. I wasn’t being serious about flatly ignoring you.
“In the beautiful, man posits himself as the measure of perfection; in special cases he worships himself in it. A species cannot do otherwise but thus affirm itself alone.”
[Nietzsche, Twilight of the Idols, Skirmishes, 19.]
What goes for the species also goes for the sub-species, and for the sub-sub-species or race. Fenotype follows from genotype, so if a genotypical Caucasian admires a Negro for his fenotypical beauty, it can only be that the genes of the former affirm the genotype of the latter (who is possibly of mixed Negroid and Caucasoid stock - for instance, Beyoncé).
Because Nietzsche cared about them?
My affirmation (“to believe” literally, etymologically, means “to hold dear”) of Nietzsche is ultimately a self-affirmation; and not necessarily of my current self, but often rather of my “next self” or ideal. Indeed, my philosophy affirms such idolising or example-taking:
“Indeed, if it were no longer possible to “attach one’s heart” to a great human being, in whom one sees reflected one’s own prospects for self-perfection, then one would have no means of redeeming one’s hatred of oneself.”
[Daniel Conway, Love’s labor’s lost.]
I have a bound heart, but a free spirit, to speak with Nietzsche. And this is not really a circular argument. For my affirmation of Nietzsche follows from the fact expressed in that section of Twilight of the Idols I just quoted to “my real name”. I was, however, unconscious of this fact when I started to read Nietzsche.
My first contribution to this thread was not meant to be an argument. Rather, it was meant to show that a philosopher who is generally considered to have been (and still be) one of the most influential of the past century or so thought such a politically incorrect, such a “backward” thing about Negroes. It was essentially a suggestion to “Night”, that if he concorded with this view, he might want to study Nietzsche.
Define “like” please.
I don’t really know how to answer that question scientifically, that is, I don’t know how to offer a moral opinion about a race without falling into metaphysics.
Speaking in general I will tell you this, if I may. I do not “like” how they look. They are, to my eye, terribly offensive. I do not “like” the way they talk. Their vocabularies and vernaculars consist of disintegrated ebonics, almost to the point that it seems they are proud that they cannot, or don’t want to, develop a better vocabulary and manner of speaking. This is a result of a culture, mind you, and I am speaking here of my generation of black people.
If I asked why black people haven’t been very successful in “intellectual” fields, I might get an answer like this: “because whitey has got them down.” I do believe that. I do believe that racism is alive and well in red-neck America.
The important thing is to base all racial prejudices from a cultural perspective. I cannot hate a race for what they are, but for what they do. This, though, is even more complicated here in America, because I believe that the black culture in general is being played like a puppet, and designed, by a kind of consumer racketeering, if you will, where its popular image is simplified in the media eyes through semiotic powers. The “successful” black person in America is portrayed very simply with not many prospects in mind.
If this is a political question and I am asked if a genocide would be a useful expediency for better life in the future, I’d be quite tempted to push the button. Remember, I don’t believe in “God”, nor do I concern myself with dead people. A dead person isn’t missing out on anything. We are moving forward. I have no sentiment for history and the “would-haves” or “could-haves”.
But wait…in all likelyhood, if it ever came to the point where someone had the power and threatened to destroy an entire race…I think significant change would occur suddenly. But I don’t think this will ever happen and I’m more convinced that there are conspiracies being conducted by the white race to slowly cause the black race to become extinct.
The problem between all races is not a materialistic problem. It is a philosophical problem. It is politics, religion, and economy that creates oppositions between races. The fight between races for power has been going on since the industrialization period and “demographic differences” are to be blamed. These differences were and are religious and politcial, and capitalism is making it worse.
I wish I was black. I think black people are cool. Soul train taught me how to dance.
culture is the main factor, skin colour has’nt got much to do with it.
how they are/act that is.
i actually dont find very dark skin attractive compared to lighter tones but caramel brown is just yum-licious.
I know of no specific difference under “man”, only material differences.
“Man” is an “infima species”. [Edit: Let us affirm humanity.]
I like black people, but that’s cool if you don’t. A lot of people don’t.
I feel kinda bad about it but i really dont like people. i dont know why, i guess cause theyre dumb and ugly. they act stupid and do stupid things and are just all around degenerative.
Fuck black people (like myself)
fuck I’m ugly.
Fuck this conversation is intelligent.
I feel kinda bad about it but i really dont like old gobbo. i dont know why, i guess cause hes dumb and ugly. he acts stupid and does stupid things and is just all around degenerative and has a nonsensical name.
=D>
I kid. You’re cool.