Thank you Iam and Phyllo for keeping this on-topic.
Abortion:
People want self-autonomy and self-determination.
The ‘rights’ of the living take precedence over the ‘rights’ of the dead or unborn.
An unwanted child will be more likely to be abused and neglected than a wanted child.
Unsafe, illegal abortions endanger the life of the woman.
No religious woman is forced to have an abortion.
Therefore, it is reasonable to provide an opportunity for a woman to have an abortion.
That’s not quite the argument that works…
People can say the fetus wants self autonomy too…
The main problem (that you touched upon) is that non consensual birth from the mother, positively reinforces non consent in life.
The child WILL grow up in consent violation mentality globally!
And yes, that’s objectively what nobody wants!
And yes, iambiguous is trolling big time…
But MagsJ just patted him on the back for it
One more off-topic post or mention of trolling and this thread will be locked.
Umm… This is strange…
Everyone except iambiguous knows he’s trolling…
Did he give ILP $100,000 dollars or something??
I’ve never experienced this level of censorship for on topic posts, or even off topic posts…
Bizarre…
Thread locked; Ecmandu issued a warning and subsequent 4-day ban.