# Identity
**URL:** https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/identity/2256
**Category:** Philosophy
**Created:** [May 15, 2004, 4:31am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/identity/2256 "2004-05-15T04:31:18Z")
**Posts on this page:** 17
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### Author:  [@The\_Underground\_Man](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/The_Underground_Man)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2004, 4:31am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/identity/2256/1 "2004-05-15T04:31:18Z")
What Identity does a person have who has no identity?
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### Author:  [@Pope\_Lanky\_Wanky\_KSC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Pope_Lanky_Wanky_KSC)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2004, 5:46am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/identity/2256/2 "2004-05-15T05:46:41Z")
He has the greatest identity, he is one with the earth’s natural way or “Tao” if you will. He is completely liquid and yeilding and thus can live without conflict.
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### Author:  [@The\_Underground\_Man](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/The_Underground_Man)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2004, 7:01pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/identity/2256/3 "2004-05-15T19:01:29Z")
True. But what identity is he precieved to have from society? Can a man through societal perceptions have no identity?
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### Author:  [@BMW-Guy](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/BMW-Guy)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2004, 7:46pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/identity/2256/4 "2004-05-15T19:46:05Z")
> [@TheUndergroundMan](#):
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> What Identity does a person have who has no identity?
He has the identity of all that he personally knows to be true about himself. 😉
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### Author:  [@The\_Underground\_Man](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/The_Underground_Man)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2004, 8:04pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/identity/2256/5 "2004-05-15T20:04:12Z")
Right but I’m asking from societies perspective.
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### Author:  [@BMW-Guy](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/BMW-Guy)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2004, 8:10pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/identity/2256/6 "2004-05-15T20:10:55Z")
> [@TheUndergroundMan](#):
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> Right but I’m asking from societies perspective.
Oh, sorry, I didn’t realize that’s what you were trying to ask. Oh well.
Okay, um, what about DNA? Or, is that ruled-out, as well? 😕😉
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### Author:  [@The\_Underground\_Man](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/The_Underground_Man)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2004, 9:17pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/identity/2256/7 "2004-05-15T21:17:58Z")
I would like to know what social identity this person is labeled with if he may be labeled with any at all.
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### Author:  [@BMW-Guy](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/BMW-Guy)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2004, 10:25pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/identity/2256/8 "2004-05-15T22:25:52Z")
> [@TheUndergroundMan](#):
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> I would like to know what social identity this person is labeled with if he may be labeled with any at all.
Okay, thanks for clarifying that.
To answer the question, I’d say that I don’t think the person would have any identity. In the real world, I guess he’d be re-issued a new identity (one that was totally different from his original one) just so that he could participate in life (so to speak).
😕😉
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### Author:  [@Wisdumb](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Wisdumb)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2004, 12:59am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/identity/2256/9 "2004-05-16T00:59:18Z")
What do you mean by identity? Like a stereotype? Name? Description? Etc.?
It seems to me that a man without an identity through societal perceptions is a man who is unknown to the particular society.
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### Author:  [@General](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/General)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2004, 1:36am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/identity/2256/10 "2004-05-16T01:36:41Z")
I think his identity will be ‘identity-less’. It’s very unique to have no identity at all because very few people are like that, so people will readily recognize him. Irony…
😲
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### Author:  [@heather\_lewis](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/heather_lewis)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2004, 2:27am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/identity/2256/11 "2004-05-16T02:27:01Z")
That is ironic. It made me smile 😃
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### Author:  [@Pope\_Lanky\_Wanky\_KSC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Pope_Lanky_Wanky_KSC)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2004, 3:15am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/identity/2256/12 "2004-05-16T03:15:58Z")
Identity from society’s perspective is meaningless, except in the form of proof of identification. Is that what you meant? If that is what you meant, then it means he can’t buy beer.
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### Author:  [@The\_Underground\_Man](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/The_Underground_Man)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2004, 3:30am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/identity/2256/13 "2004-05-16T03:30:19Z")
I realize that. It was just wierd because I smoked up and realized I have no identity lol so I was just curiouse. I could care less about what society thinks too 🕶
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### Author:  [@heather\_lewis](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/heather_lewis)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2004, 3:42am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/identity/2256/14 "2004-05-16T03:42:03Z")
what is identity according to you? Maybe you have no identity with yourself, but with all of us you are the underground man.
To me if you have a personality then you have an identity,therefore you only exlude yourself.
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### Author:  [@willem](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/willem)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2004, 10:38am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/identity/2256/15 "2004-05-16T10:38:59Z")
is identity how you see yourself? the entire you? what you do? or how other people see you?
maybe that’s just different types of identity…
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### Author:  [@BMW-Guy](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/BMW-Guy)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2004, 11:45am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/identity/2256/16 "2004-05-16T11:45:15Z")
Yes, idetity can be realtive in this case. 😉
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### Author:  [@itel7](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/itel7)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2004, 4:54pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/identity/2256/17 "2004-05-17T16:54:34Z")
> [@BMW-Guy](#):
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> > [@TheUndergroundMan](#):
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> > What Identity does a person have who has no identity?
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> He has the identity of all that he personally knows to be true about himself. 😉
identity is and personality are the sum and results of our choices. From societal prespective “he” will have the identity basedon his choise. If “he” lives on the street and has no shelter or food, he has the identity of a begger