would we be dumb idiots? People who have had relatively little adversity in their lives, aren’t the same as those who have been through tough times, and come out the other side of it. The child will not become the adult without adversity, and grown-ups who are like the child [like me at one time lol] are walking through the world as if wearing blinkers. At least thats my experience, and I know that I was wearing blinkers at one stage, though inevitably the world has stripped them back.
Point being that we [esp. society, politicians] keep trying to make the world a better place, when that’s impossible to achieve. We get politically correct and what has it produced; a world where 70’s comedy is rarely shown [mostly just the ones which are more acceptible], but its fine to show hannibal and what have you? There seems to be an agenda or two [fucking endless agendas] being thrown around, which if we look at any part of, we think ‘oh that’s right’ it should be like this or that and not like the world really is. But when those ‘right things’ are let us say, overused, it smacks of an agenda imho, though I don’t know if there is an ultimate goal for the agendists…
What kind of world are they trying to make? And what happens if you remove much of the worlds adversity? Do they want a world of fools?
Not fools, just pacifists. Yea there are agendas out there that conflict or twist. But, that all could be for the good. Do you realize that other than physical differences , humans do not have mental differences? Oh we have genius down to moron but, no significant mental difference. Most species have different mental adaptations not just physical. Examples close to us: canine and feline. Definite mental differences within in the species as well as physical differences. With those mental differences , the species can adapt and survive true challenges in this world. Can we? I truly am not sure intelligence is enough. I do see adaptability is waning in this species.
If everything went swimmingly, I would have built the DNA machine and everyone would have 700 IQ’s so no people would not be idiots.
“IQ is a flawed test”
Yes most IQ tests are flawed, I am referring to IQ as an abstract concept.
Also, I think wisdom is an inherent property, kids watching movies point out dumb decisions of characters. Only difference is naive people can’t do the same in real life due to emotional investment. They know how to solve the zombie apocalypse on paper, but in real life theyll be emotionally confused on what to do.
So adversity doesnt really increase wisdom that much, wisdom is mostly inherent, it just increases how much that wisdom can be used under duress.
Ye! we all have around 87 billion neurons, ergo intelligence is a matter of utility.
Well there are a number of steps to get over all the hurdles, whether or not we take them is another thing.
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lol yes. As long as you could find women who like you being a fool ~ I mean if you hadn’t learned through adversity.
Trixie
So you’d have fools with high IQ’s?
Inherent from what, magic? they probably do that because the subconscious is telling them how to think, though you can have in-built knowledge genetically transcribed in your brain, but wisdom is the thing you learn and kids are still fools comparatively.
Everything will never go swimmingly. Make a list of the top 100 problems facing mankind. Fix every single one of them, and you’ll just have a society where problems 101-200 are a Super Fucking Big Deal.
You realize that if you have a relationship with someone that someone else wants to have…
You’re a douche!
If someone has a relationship with someone you want to have… They’re a douche.
You’re a douche Uccisore !
Because you don’t give a fuck about the large problems… This problem is harder than food and housing in heaven… But you just abuse the system and then call me a crazy retard!
If your future ever works out well… It’s not because of people like you… That’s why Jesus said to even hate yourself if you want to solve problems!
I already know the score… Only shitheaded males can get sex, which makes all females shitheads…
This is actually the biggest problem… Heaven makes the other infinite ones easy!
Ahh… Yes, everyone on the planet knows that every species except insects and birds and bonobos have the same sexual statistics, and the lack of sexual stratification in bonobos causes them to not war, like even birds and insects… And that human distribution is like the chimp who have war and homicide…
Which means, sexual stratification causes war and homicide, sociological FACT!
Even the mono amorous birds have to compete for territory to get the best mates…
Funny that the only social science board on the site would ban BASIC social science!!!
So as a basic social science debate, to facilitate peace, everything moving swimmingly, which is also ON TOPIC!!! We’d have to address issues of property and partner stratification… Yeah … I’m the crazy!!! pfft
Territory Uccisore, you just pulled rank for it, do you get the problem NOW???
Nah, Ecmandu is more or less right. For instance, in lions, most of the male lions are killed or exiled from the tribe, and then live life alone with no friends. Then they come back, kill the alpha male who killed their friends, and rape one or two women, become the new alpha and oppressor, and the cycle repeats itself, ala scarface.
We can see this dynamic in modern highschools. Basically, these same mechanisms are in society, and society is a facade, a schism. They try to present a postive image, while the majority of the population are secretly suffering. Like, one side of them swallows the whole social equality bullshit, and the other side of them, realises the whole social equality thing is a bullshit facade made up by alpha males and their subservient females to oppress and isolate them from sex and society even further.
And you put human drama and twist what is in animal world. Your facts are wrong about Lions.
Why should I pity humans that never look beside them or around them for happiness? They look through a window and whine about what they cannot have. They build their own world of misery.
I looked them on up a science website, but I can’t wait to hear your stories about how you were bush woman back in WW2 and know the in’s n out’s of lion psychology.
I don’t think you should. You don’t seem like the kind of person who enjoys handing out pity, so I don’t think receiving pity from you would at all be a nurturing or enjoyable experience from you. Could be wrong though.
One science website? Oh do please share that link.
To the rest, I pity those that deserve it, help those that deserve help. Pity and help when undeserved creates weak minded tools and whiny ass adults.
Figured that would be your response. Now if you truly want to learn behaviorisms of animals , get past National Geographic, go to your nearest University library and study books from the oldest to the most recent. Books from different researchers. All scientists , researchers have agendas and theories that can cloud their work. So studying just one source will give you misinformation. Or is that too much for you?