I think it’s not quite accurate to say that something has existed since forever or has a beginning, so it’s not really a point imo. God/Reality could’ve created a world with infinite past and we would think it has existed since forever but actually not or otherwise. Here I’m just exploring the god as the ultimate causer. For example we have such a saying: Every watch has a creator, a watchmaker. This world also has its own watchmaker. But creation as a concept means we already had the materials and some idea by which we build that watch. Which one is the primary? The idea of watch or the materials? Right now the watch may not exist, but the idea exists, therefore we can make a watch and we have a watch, an application/realization of the idea of watch, a creation.
Thus, creation implies that we need an idea to formulate, and the material by which we realize the idea. Does it mean watch didn’t exist before we created it? Yes but the materials have always existed, independently from the idea, it was just that it was disarranged. Or the watch itself exists but the idea of watch doesn’t, does it make that watch doesn’t exist? What’s the connection between the idea and realization? In some point of time it may not exist but in absolute sense it has always existed from the beginning to the end of time and probably in the state in which the concept of time doesn’t exist (not applied), both the idea and the realization, independently from each other.
God is causer, cause is an intention, an idea/concept, the definition of cause is one thing, and there can be different kind of causes. Thus cause is just another idea/concept, therefore some event in an absolute sense exists (already occurred or about to occur in some point of time, but it exists), and the cause as an idea exists in an absolute sense.
Therefore god is not a creator nor is a causer.
But god created everything, and this means he formulated all the ideas/concepts, he “created” the concept of concept, created the concept of cause, correlation, and the creation this world. But how could God create or cause this world and the concepts if it didn’t exist prior to that? Not even the concept of time (before/after). God is also some concept, created by God. So God created himself (an idea), and basically everything else. But that concept of God is created by himself, and attributed everything else not to him directly but to his image/concept of God. Therefore the God we talk about his merely his image, an avatar of himself while he is outside of his creation, but the concept of outside or beynd doesn’t exist “outside” of the creation, therefore there is no outside. God is outside which doesn’t exist. There is no player that controls his avatar, and the avatar is not controlled by anything. God is that player that doesn’t exist, and doesn’t control his avatar, and his avatar is not him, nor related to him in any way. God is not a causer, not a creator and doesn’t exist (from the beginning to the end of the timeline, he’s not there nor has ever been).
