And I’m not saying that sex has to be painful or feel bad I’m saying that it doesn’t feel good or pleasurable it just feels boring let’s just keep it at that for the hypothetical.
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People do tedious stuff all the time for reasons other than the fact that they’re interesting.
…like answering this thread, for example.
It’s not exactly a unique subject.
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At first, yes. Long time, no
…are you implying that prostution is less unpleasurable than, say, mining?
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No. If sex was not as insanely pleasurable as it is, the human race would have died out long ago.
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Interesting thought experiment, although as a counter I would say some of the most weird nature documentaries I have watched are the ones that show all of the different froms of animal sexual intercourse or reproduction.
In some animal species like insects, reptiles, crustaceans, birds, or fish the act of reproduction looks downright painful where one wonders what urges them to do it at all.
Is it all pleasure, or is there also instinct?
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For insects, for example, who basically rape and eat each other during sex, or whatever the fuck crazy shit nature came up with to facilitate their species’ reproduction, yes I think you are right they are operating on pure ‘instinct’. Maybe instinct is the wrong word, but basically they have no choice. They are biological machines and act the way they act in certain situations. No free will, they are not conscious or intentional beings in the way we are, etc.
But for humans, that would not work unless we could be made to regress into some kind of controlled zombie mode whenever sex was supposed to occur. That just wouldn’t work for a self-aware species that requires to exist with a huge amount of cooperation. Imagine what the world would be like if humans raped and ate each other for sex, like either we would have ended up being some kind of totally crazy warlike species of radical individual Predators or we would be a welrdly half-conscious species that retains some kind of volition and thoughtfulness most of the time except when a sexually charged situation arises in which case we transform into a raving robot that loses all humanity and just starts fucking and killing on instinct.
At least we are lucky that nature didn’t go down one of those routes for us. Far easier I suppose to just up the power of our internal dopamine/oxytocin reward system and link that almost exclusively to sex. It feels good enough to be very motivating, yet we still retain some awareness and self-control or at least enough to intentionally conform to social codes and norms regardless of our sex drive. Because we can consciously understand the consequences of violating those codes and norms, and that understanding is real enough for us to keep us from breaking them (in most cases). Of course there are some people who have less intentional self-control than others. Criminals tend to be like that, less ability to curb their impulses or act in terms of future planning at the expense of present moment satisfaction.
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