i finally watched the poorly produced “what the bleep do we know movie” . one person said ; if you 100 percent believe that you can walk on water, you will be able too. what do you think. ??? somthing about quantum mechanics.
I think I would not test this theory in the deep end of the pool.
Check out who made the film and the “experts” featured in it.
i’ve watched that movie, its very good, and certainly qualified. What the person meant, was an anti-foundationalist type of thinking. Where the mind is greater then the physical world around, in which the physical world is dependent on the mind whereas normally most people percieve the mind to be dependent on the physical world. This can be brought back to the age old question “If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around, does it make a sound?” The answer could be either way, as one could say that a tree is independent of the human mind and makes a sound even if no one can hear it. The other answer would be: no the tree does not even exist to make a sound because it’s existence depends on the mind.
I do believe that if a person completely has their mind set that they can walk on water 100%, they will be able to, this type of mind over matter can be observed in a lot of the martial arts, and tibetten Monks. But the main problem is that it is almost impossible for someone to have their mind set that they CAN walk on water, for we are conditioned from childhood that we cant. Thus to have your mind set as such, one would have to be independent from the world, which almost impossible. I do believe it is all in our mind, yet our habitual conditioning bounds us to the laws of the universe.
P.S. i recommend that you watch “what the bleep do we know” over again if this is your first time, as it is crammed with info and the second time around you learn a lot more and understand everything better.
Yeah I agree with Blind and trapdoors; what thw bleep do we know isn’t so much about pragmatic results but mearly the key to unlock a certain conceptual shell so many of us seem to be trapped in.
I particularly like the scene where the one professor is talking about seeing 1 particle in 2 different positions. They try and put as much as they can into the movie and so it seems a little contrived at parts but I defintately think it’s good.
I heard that if you believe that your mind is dependent on reality 100% then you will be able to actually make a difference in the world rather than just in your own fantasy land.
The sort of mystical Gnosticism promulgated by BLEEP is popular with a disaffected, affluent people that doesn’t think it can make a difference or do anything purposeful with its life. Better to retreat into fantasyland, they say, than to enter the arena and grapple with reality.
As even Don Quixote eventually learned, reality punches through the fragile happiness of the romantic who lives in a fantasy world. That’s how you know it’s reality.
we are always in a conceptual shell; whether we are trapped or not depends on how much we like the room inside.
True, although some would want the equation to continue forever - it does not. For the most part it is continued until one chooses to comply.
New Age crap mixed with popularisation of quantum mechanics/Husserl’s phenomenology. An interesting attempt at making an intellectual film but I remain unconvinced.
Or put another way - one can claim that one’s beliefs are intrinsic and can only be changed by oneself but you throw enough red hot pokers at someone and they’ll start to believe anything that you tell them to believe.
Walking on water is not the hard part, thats easy, It is shifting those blasted molecules in to proper sequence to make them firm, that is the hard part.
I don’t buy into that kind of thinking.
I believe a fact is a fact. That no believing in the world going to change a fact. A long time ago when people believed the earth was flat it did not change the fact it was round. It did not just become round when people starting believing it round. It was round from the very beginning. Beliefs are nothing more then a replace meant for facts to allow us to function till we find facts to full in the gaps. We should always be seeking facts to replace our beliefs.
This is roughly the same as Bertrand Russell’s position.
Good to know. not familar with his work. I look into some of his writings.
Anyway I doubt much of anything anyone says on this forum have not been thought of by someone at some time. It just a matter of odds.