If you're going to treat donald trump like a god, then you have to treat me like a god

old people leaders professors etc. why is it that they automatically deserve more respect? if we should treat everyone equally, why must they be the exception.

i don’t think i should be treated like a god but nor should anyone else. you can appreciate a person’s achievements but don’t treat them as though they are above anyone.

also that reminds me, hate the sin not the sinner? but if someone does good then we like them more?

what do you think?

big “if” right then and there

Respect is earned, not deduced

well no not really. everyone should be treated with respect regardless of merit. respect should be a bare minimum in a functioning and civil society.

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Some people are heroes. We treat them as such.

Certainly nobody, specially teachers, deserves respect on account of their title.

Respect is earned, like pseudoai says, it is a subtle art.

I also don’t see it in terms of civil society, which can be all kinds of monsters and I don’t understand, anyway. It is just a thing in life.

Decency is due out of the box, manners.

Yes, respect is earned, and you think people should be treated such and such. Those can be true at the same time

But they do not. Why did you believe or presume they did?

When people stop judging, this hating or liking others ceases.

Why do you disrespect people until they earn your respect?

Are there really ‘shoulds’ in Life?

To me, if people just treated all other people respectfully, always, then this would help in creating a much better world for everyone.

Like ‘who’, for example? And, why do you treat some human beings as so-called “heroes”.

Agreed.

Why do you disrespect others until they ‘earn’ ‘your respect’?

where did you hide the corpse of that grandma you killed just for fun?

Hahahahahahaha

First:

Second: We hate the sinner. We punish the sinner. We lock away the sinner.
Philosophy and religion is one thing, law and the justice system is another.
Granted, its hypocritical af but we have always been applying standards on a social basis in an “idgaf” manner anyway. We punish people for crimes, sometimes give them life sentences or execute them, meanwhile we refuse to allow terminally ill patients to die and force them to suffer often for months in such a state that whenever they regain their consciousness they only scream… we dont kill them coz do no harm and killing is bad supposedly, but also we do abortion and send our military to bomb women and children at random without a formal declaration of war, because who gives a fuck.

The sooner you stop applying rationality to society the easier you will have it.
Even applying it to individual human beings fails most of the time, so you really appreciate it when it doesnt, but with society dont even try. You will only hurt yourself.

They don’t and they shouldn’t. I especially find the ‘we must respect old people’ nonsense particularly annoying. Rapists and murderers get old too. People don’t miraculously become marvellous at a certain age. They get more vulnerable and usually need more consideration with regard to that. What do people even mean when they say ‘respect’? Do they mean ‘grovel’ to them? According to AI this is what showing ‘respect’ means:

Key Ways to Show Respect

  • Listening when others speak without cutting them off.
  • Valuing boundaries by leaving people alone when they ask for privacy.
  • Following rules and laws set by your school, job, or town.
  • Being polite by using kind words and good manners.

Why would those things apply specifically to certain people?

old people often demand it. when i speak to an aunt of mine for instance, she often demands i treat her with far more respect than “my mates”. further, take someone like kim jong un for instance. he is so desperate for respect and admiration to the point where he is above criticism. otherwise there are severe consequences.

also, would you ever speak to your boss the way you speak to the rest of your colleagues?

The only one who should be treated like God is God, and he said to treat everybody the way you would want to be treated, because when you treat anybody like anything, you’re treating God that way, since we’re all made in this image. The only one who is perfect is God. But imagine the people who aren’t perfect are God, or you, and correct/love them the way you/God would want to be corrected/loved.

If I was Trump or anyone else in a position of authority (which means I am held responsible to make sure everyone in my authority is held responsible for their part of the group dynamic—and that I help them achieve their part as far as I am able, and they are not) and I didn’t get my **** together, I would want there to be a coup by people who have their **** together (they don’t help people who don’t need help, and they don’t make life harder for people who do, to start with).

Here’s a little relevant illustration:

This guy def looks like he could use some help:

Maybe the uberambitious Trump should stop aspiring to be the Ubermensch and empower others, instead. You don’t have to disempower others to feel better about yourself. In fact, that should make you feel like a ****head.

Make America Super Again

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This always reminds me of how much of a naive little shitstain i was for half of my life.
Thinking things like we are all the same deep down, and that anyone can be spoken to if you just find the right tone.

This fundamentally naive idea that everyone who has it bad is a victim of circumstance, and that every victim can be lifted up and they will be happy, contributing members of society if you just give them the chance to be.

This is why socialism and the left constantly ends up setting up this fantasy world where everyone matters and is cared for, just to then realize (realize might be a strong word for people who run on emotions instead of reason) that they once again built a system that killed hundreds of thousands and starved millions.

Suicidal empathy built on naive ignorance.
You can only help those who are willing to help themselves.
Measure the economy after the bottom 30% and have fun living in the third world due to at least half of those people not giving a shit about the rest who are above them.

So the 1% care if the 30% care about them? This is gaslighting. They don’t live like the care, man. They’d be paying living wages and not jacking up prices on essentials… so they can get a yacht.

Down with corporate welfare until there is no one in poverty. That means no government subsidies, no tax breaks/shelters, and hold them accountable to pay living wages (especially if they’re profitable) and not hike up prices on essentials DUH. If people can’t run to other countries ‘cause you make this happen globally, I guess they’ll just have to tighten their belts (guess you’ll just have to skip that tummy tuck).

Actually it’s the poor who drive the economy and keep it moving because they spend all their money. Are they also obliged to all be saint-like? I’m pretty sure their personalities and characters are as many and varied as the human race in general.

But hey, lets go back to the Utopia that was life before what you insist on calling ‘socialism’ (without ever defining it or apparently even knowing what it means), say the 1900s and earlier (only a heartbeat of time ago historically).

Bring back the workhouses for those pesky old, sick and poor people. Let the children of the poor starve–it’s so good for the character!

Who cares about the general standard of living? We want to see people dying in the gutters. It reminds us of how much better we are than them and encourages us all to pull ourselves up by the bootstraps and get rich, like our betters in their palaces and castles :heart_eyes:

The US used to have a tradition of philalnthropy, where the enormously rich would spend vast sums on things like hospitals, museums, places of learning. They did it to benefit everyone. People were different then. I can’t imagine someone like Trump or those psychopathic arseholes of silicon valley doing it now. Giving to ‘charity’ isn’t the same thing. Charities these days are just huge, moneymaking corporations that pass on only the tiniest portion of donations to whatever cause they claim to be helping. They accumulate enormous wealth. Greed has become something to be admired instead of condemned.

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Why are you ‘trying to’ claim something that I did not do?

Now, why do ‘you’ disrespect people until they have done something that earns ‘your respect’?

Or, if ‘you’ did not mean that others have to earn ‘your respect’ before you ‘respect them’, then what does ‘respect is earned’ mean or refer to, exactly?

Please do not be afraid to be totally open and honest here.