Why is it illegal to question the validity of the Jewish holocaust all throughout Europe and other countries?
Why can people be sent to jail for it?
You only make something illegal if there is something to hide.
Either it happened like the history books suggest or it didn’t.
Why make questioning or investigations illegal?
Is this a example of thought crime?
watch ur mouth, for all you know it could be illegal to question the law that it’s illegal to question the holocaust
Probably is.
It isn’t. Holocaust revisionism is largely legal. Holocaust denial is not, but only in some places. You can deny the holocaust in the UK all you like. People will think you’re an asshole, but it’s not illegal.
Yet another instance of an American assuming something bad about Europe that turns out to not be true. There’s a pattern here. It’s almost like the Americans are actually jealous of Europe.
Basically, because it is considered racially abusive. It’s a pretty weak law, in truth.
Yeah, murder is only made illegal because they are trying to hide… no, wait, what you just said is really stupid.
Depends which history books you read. There are certain holocaust myths, like the lampshades made from the skin of gassed Jews, which there is basically no evidence for. But that there were camps, where large numbers of people were forced to labour for the Nazis, and where they carried out experiments on people, and where they killed quite a lot of people - that’s all pretty well evidenced, inasmuch as anything during WW2 is well evidenced.
The Jewish lobby is powerful, and exploits the holocaust for political ends. That much is obvious. It doesn’t mean that they just made it all up.
No, it’s an example of a speech crime. You can think whatever you like about the holocaust, even in Germany. But if you go out waving your banner with swastikas on saying ‘no Jews died during WW2/the WTC attacks’ then you are voicing that thought.
I’m not saying I agree with the law, but most holocaust deniers focus solely on the Jewish angle, which presumably means their denial is motivated by racism.
What I want to know is why it is ‘the holocaust’, when other genocides were much larger and more horrible but don’t get described as such. A lot of people use the Nazi holocaust as the benchmark for evil, and then deny that anything else that has been done or is being done is equally bad. It does occupy a curious position in Western history and morality.
I have to agree with SIATD on this ( 
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Call me naive, but I don’t understand the hate that Aryans have for the Jewish? Is it because they are winning the global monopoly game, or are good at it at the very least?
To be fair, isn’t that the norm? To hate people who make more money than you? “We are the 99%” and all that? It’s not really a far cry from that mentality.
So, holocaust denial is illegal in some places within Europe. That still strikes me as thought crime.
That is why you would move to outlaw specific forms of thinking.
The holocaust deniers would call themselves investigators as revisionists from what I have heard.
Yes, the Jewish political lobby would have to be powerful to pass such thought crime legislation by conditioning everybody to accept it.
One would think if these people were ignorant assholes that they would not be outlawed.
I wanted this thread to be about the holocaust only but I know for a fact what is called racist hate speech is punishable in the UK, correct?
I don’t even care whether the holocaust was true or not…what I want to know is why the death of “6 million” jews is so important, but the death of all the europeans is not, or much less trajic. Are jews more valuable lives than other races and peoples? Why must we grieve and cry over THEIR deaths, but not the other millions of people who died in world war 2? Riddle me this, batman. Why do jews have such “protection” and privilege? Is because they’re truly “God’s chosen”, or another reason?? When will people ever cry or grieve over all the other millions of dead who died in world war 2, why do only jewish deaths count as historically important, as if we need to constantly appease them and their favor??
And of course it should be illegal for stupid white, european goy cattle to question their masters. Since when did we allow slaves to have opinions? The jewish masters are pretty strict about this. NO questioning their authority, and the authority of GOD ALMIGHTY! The Jews conquered germany fair and square. Most people are just mad that they’re not smart enough to be the jewish master class, rather than the goyish slave class.
Don’t be mad…blame your inferior genes or something. You were born this way baby. Born to SERVE! 
Excellent questions Trajic.
Then you don’t understand ‘thought crime’. That’s where it is a crime just to think something, not to express it in public.
There’s a difference between revisionism - ‘some elements of the story are untrue, or omit key facts’ - and denial - ‘it didn’t happen at all’. A lot of deniers, people who claim Auschwitz was just a holiday camp, that sort of thing, try to disguise their work as revisionism, but it almost invariably leads into some sort of ‘Jews run the world, they made it all up’ scenario which is almost invariably motivated by racism.
Wasn’t just the Jewish lobby, of course, it feeds into other agendas too.
It is in most Western countries. Following someone down the street aggressively shouting ‘Paki!’ at them isn’t really considered acceptable anywhere. Except at Tea Party rallies. But of course, people still do it and get away with it.
We do grieve over the millions of other people who died in World War 2. Everywhere you go in Europe there are statues and plaques and other commemorative totems and whatnot. We have a dedicated day in this country devoted to remembrance for those who died in war.
But they largely volunteered, because they were stupid and propagandised. They thought they were fighting against evil or for their country or whatever other myth they’d swallowed. It dismays me how we worship the war dead in this country, how we idolise them. Most of them were just semi-literate young men caught up in a planned national fervour who either went off to kill other people and died, or went off and killed other people and came back physically and psychologically traumatised. It really wasn’t this country’s finest hour, but particularly in Britain we have a big purple-veined hard on for WW2.
Whereas the 6 million Jews who supposedly died in the concentration camps did not volunteer - they were basically kidnapped and imprisoned on an industrial scale. Of course, it probably wasn’t 6 million. Of course, there were plenty of non-Jews scooped up as part of this too. It is a tragic and malignant ignorance of history to only think about the Jews. Nonetheless, there really aren’t that many Jews in the world, so 6 million seems like a genocide. It’s a significant proportion of the total Jewry.
Do they? Do bad things not happen to Jews?
They do.
Must be because they’re secretly running the world. I mean, there’s just no other explanation, right?
Making any kind of public expression forbidden is a form of thought crime racist or not.
Is it crazy conspiracy that zionism is pervasive all across western civilization controlling media, government, and finance?
Is it crazy conspiracy speaking of the federal reserve that is controlled by a bunch of high ranking Jews?
Is it crazy conspiracy knowing that behind a lot of ideological globalism is a bunch of notable Jewish thinkers?
Is it crazy conspiracy noticing how the United States foreign policy is controlled by AIPAC?
Of the 30 or so of my Dutch family members who got sent to various concentration camps, 1 survived. And only because he escaped, repeatedly. That was my grandfather.
I’ve spent a lot of time making sense of nazi ideology, because I wanted to know precisely why this had been done, as a philosophical approach to life requires. That was a very painful, but educative time. In the end, after ten years of torturous analytical surgery of my roots from my fathers side, I finally returned to love Jewry, including Israel and it’s contempt for Islam, for the simple reason of their superior merits in terms of my own, real life values. Jews are, in general, intelligent, ambitious creators, muslims are, in general, not.
The most pathetic thing of all is a nazi-holocaust denier. If you hate Jews so much, don’t be such an unbelievable weakling, and own up to the harm you want to see done to them. But modern anti-semites (the invertebrates creeping around here) are too weak to recognize the consequences of their ideology.
Fixed Kreuz would you describe yourself as a zionist then?
There is no group of good guys, neither on one side of the fence or the other, neither sitting on top of it, nor buried beneath.
The pervading myth of good and evil. Of heroes and villains.
There is only the competition of conquest and domination.
There are only the confused, diverse only in the manner of their confusion.
The secretive and hidden destroyers of the world prey upon others confusion.
The disoriented make easy prey for the predators.
No, it isn’t. Thought crime makes a crime of thoughts, not expressions of thoughts.
Yes, because it isn’t.
Yes, because quite a lot of them aren’t Jewish.
Yes, because quite a lot of them aren’t Jewish.
Yes, because it isn’t. If it was controlled by AIPAC (rather than simply influenced by it) then there would have been a war in Iran by now. Instead, the US have simply turned a blind eye to Mossad running about carrying out assassinations and generally causing trouble.
Does Israel punch way above its weight in international affairs? Yes. Does Israel get away with a lot of criminal acts? Yes. Do policy makers extend a lot of moral and political double standards towards Israel? Yes. Does that mean Israel is secretly running the world? Of course not.